Snowy Demon

Ahh, Fangraphs. Such a valuable website. Almost as good as trade simulator. ?

I wish I had his money. ?

Usually not but the Red Sox finished last in 3 out of last 4 years. That is becoming more of a trend.

No. AL East did not have a down year. Only the Yankees did.

Totally agree. Baltimore won 101, Tampa won 99, Toronto won 89, NYY won 82, Boston won 78. This was better than any other divisions by a long shot. There is no way this was a down year by AL East.

No one knows. It never happened.

AL East did not have a down year. My guess is you are saying the Yankees had down year. The Red Sox finished last 3 out of last 4 seasons.

Thank God. ?

Btw, what is the deal with the White Sox signing all these ex-Royals?

Definitely. That is why name calling specific GM by some is very immature.

I know some on this board wants Getz to wait. Who knows if this is the right strategy? What if the Orioles trade for Framber Valdez or Mitch Keller? Luzardo? Woo? Garrett?

So silly people getting emotional about trades that may or may not happen. There is no obligation for the Orioles or the White Sox to make trades or anyone else. It is a fun exercise for what if purposes. If any front office have their decisions influenced by these fan boards, they should be fired immediately.

This is so true. Just like people do not want to hear that their possessions such as houses do not worth as much as they think, people do not want to hear that their teams' players are not worth as much as they expect.

Who said they are not? Still a long way to go until the playoff. ?

Sound more like Steve Carlton in his prime.

They started to trade some of their prospects for known talents, but signed their own mostly. Keep in mind that the Orioles spent money in the past. Of course, there is no guarantee that they will do so in the future.

No. The Orioles are following closer to Houston model before their trades. Houston did have 2 big draft busts though and took longer.

Norfolk is AAA team for the Orioles.

That may not be enough for Cease alone. ?

G&M is my favorite crab cake place in Maryland. It is only 15 minutes away from BWI. I miss that place. Give me some G&M crab cakes and Portillo's Italian Beef. ?

Crab cakes need nothing at all. No need to ruin a perfectly good crab cake.

Based on WAR for 2023, the Orioles had 6th ranked staff in MLB, #7 per ERA and #8 per xFIP. I would say that is rather good with many controllable young pitchers.

Of course, they do. It is also a misguided belief to say the Orioles have a bad pitching staff.

Let's look at 2022, 2021, 2019, 2018. (2020 was an odd year so excluded) 2022 (Dodgers on both) Houston #2 ERA #2 WHIP Philadelphia #18 ERA #12 WHIP 2021 (Dodgers on both) Atlanta #8 #10 Houston #7 #8 2019 (Dodgers #1 on both) Washington #13 #8 Houston #3 #2 2018 (Houston #1 on both) Boston #8 #9 LAD #2 #2 What do you think? Any correlation for 5 seasons listed?

Exactly my point here. No one really knows Cease is a good post season pitcher or not after one start. Same goes for Bradish, Rodriguez, Woo, Steele or anyone like that. Can anyone really say Texas or Arizona had so much better pitching than say LAD or Atlanta prior to the playoff?