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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 03:16 PM) What kind of schedule does Danks look to be on? Should he move through the system pretty quickly? I think he will start out in Kanny, as well being much like Beckham. He will probably hit very well, but with limited power and I would say he would start next year in WS. Then pending on the season, maybe be promoted to AA for the second half of '09. Start '10 in AAA and then see where he is at. But, he should be a ML-ready talent by 23 years old, so in two years. Because we have very little talent in the upper levels, especially in the OF, I would guess Danks will rise quickily and probably be on the Sox's top 10 prospect list next year, maybe even top 5.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) Based on what? Gut instinct? or have you been watching him all year and your professional scouting ability tells you he's overrated? Thinking he will be a success is just as right as predicting he will do nothing, IMO. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I don't know why people are berating him about thinking Danks is overrated. I for think he will be wrong, and I am sure he hopes he is wrong, too in the end, but he can have an opinion.

He is pulling a Twins: be better in the majors than you were in the minors.

Please, let's not leave the bases loaded for the second consecutive inning.

Come on 2 strikes, shorten up the swing CQ.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 12:49 PM) We're going to single them to death. HOLY f***! 3 guys on base for CQ? Wow. That's a week's worth. Don't think they will hit him this time.

CQ TIME.

My god Toby Hall almost didn't give KG a hit.

KG first home run time. I feel it.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) Juan runs funny. It's because he has a huge ass.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) Why can't Toby have a career day at the plate today? Step up sir. That hit was good enough for me.

I think Danks becomes our everday CF by the start of the 2011 season. He and Beckham are anti-Sox players basically who are fundamentally sound and don't swing for the fences. Both are gamers who work hard and can run. I look foward to them in our lineup soon because along with Quentin, Ramirez, Getz (I think Beckham will move to 3rd), we have some guys that aren't stiffs. Really happy to see this draft turn out because some of the pitchers are already pitching great.

QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 10:03 AM) The thing that dragged the Sox minor league system down the last few years has been trades... not drafting. They're "average" in their drafting success... not a disaster. If you doubt it, go to thebaseballcube.com and look at year to year drafting results for all teams. There's a nice feature where you can see the highest level each player drafted achieved. It doesn't take too long to realize the Sox are no different than most teams in draft yield. The vast majority of teams with good minor league systems achieved it by: - Sucking for long periods of time and stockpiling high draft picks - Having free agents walk and stockpiling high draft picks So... bottom line... we had an average system... and it got tapped out by trades. The last 28 first round selections from the White Sox have a grand total of one all-star apperance and that was Rowand in 2007. As an organization, we have been terrible in assessing top talent or being cheap and signing the less talented player who signs for less.

I posted this in another thread for another purpose, but thought it would interesting to talk about. Why the Sox have the worst first-round draft picking in baseball the last decade and a half. Take a look at the past guys: Since 1994, here are the Sox's first-round picks 1994-Mark Johnson and Chris Clemons (both horrible, though Johnson at least played in the majors) 1995-Jeff Liefer (never could hit for average) 1996-Bobby Seay (never signed, granted loop hole FA) 1997-Jason Dellaero, Kyle Kane, Brett Caradonna, Aaron Meyette, Rocky Biddle, Jim Parque (only two of them played in the bigs more than 4 years) 1998-Kip Wells, Aaron Rowand (finally a good player and Wells was a huge dissapointment, but had one solid year in AAA ball aka the NL central) 1999-Jason Stumm, Matt Ginter, Brian West, Rob Purvis (again horrible) 2000-Joe Borchard (again horrible) 2001-Kris Honel, Wyatt Allen (again horrible) 2002-Royce Ring (great idea to draft a middle reliever with the first pick) 2003-Brian Anderson (so far a 4th OF) 2004-Josh Fields, Tyler Lumsden, Gio Gonzalez (finally a great pick, too bad he is with Oakland) 2005-Lance Broadway (again has been dissapointing recently, but has a chance to get back on track in the majors) 2006-Kyle McCulloch (horrible, never will be a major league pitcher, IMO) 2007-Aaron Poreda (not gonna know this result for awhile, but so far, you gotta like what you see) 2008-Gordon Beckham (Slayer seems like a solid bet to be a major league for 10+ years) Why have we been so horrible?

QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 08:37 PM) And you have won how many World Series rings running an organization??? My main beef with the organizational decision revolve in the minors leagues and drafting, cause clearly at the major league level KW has done a tremendous job. But if you let me make the White Sox first-round selections the last 10 years, I would probably have more success than them. Our first round picks the last decade have produced absolutely nothing and our top-tier farm system in 2001 produced nothing to the ML team. That is my beef with the Sox as the organzational decisions in the minor leagues (signing oversees) and drafting have been downright awful, if not the worst in baseball the last five years. Since 1994, here are the Sox's first-round picks 1994-Mark Johnson and Chris Clemons (both horrible, though Johnson at least played in the majors) 1995-Jeff Liefer (never could hit for average) 1996-Bobby Seay (never signed, granted loop hole FA) 1997-Jason Dellaero, Kyle Kane, Brett Caradonna, Aaron Meyette, Rocky Biddle, Jim Parque (only two of them played in the bigs more than 4 years) 1998-Kip Wells, Aaron Rowand (finally a good player and Wells was a huge dissapointment, but had one solid year in AAA ball aka the NL central) 1999-Jason Stumm, Matt Ginter, Brian West, Rob Purvis (again horrible) 2000-Joe Borchard (again horrible) 2001-Kris Honel, Wyatt Allen (again horrible) 2002-Royce Ring (great idea to draft a middle reliever with the first pick) 2003-Brian Anderson (so far a 4th OF) 2004-Josh Fields, Tyler Lumsden, Gio Gonzalez (finally a great pick, too bad he is with Oakland) 2005-Lance Broadway (again has been dissapointing recently, but has a chance to get back on track in the majors) 2006-Kyle McCulloch (horrible, never will be a major league pitcher, IMO) 2007-Aaron Poreda (not gonna know this result for awhile, but so far, you gotta like what you see) 2008-Gordon Beckham (Slayer seems like a solid bet to be a major league for 10+ years)

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 08:03 AM) Age shouldn't be an issue here... just my opinion. I agree that there shouldn't be an issue with age in gymnastics, but since there is, this is blatant cheating, as much as using steroids, IMO. There are rules, China blatantly knew them and doctored passports to qualify some of their younger gymnasts and that is terrible.

Griffey is so slow.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox15 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 05:39 PM) As Good as it Getz If he does something big today, that would be an easy headline in the paper tomorrow.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 05:38 PM) Gordon will be in the booth with Hawk and DJ in the third inning. SWEET. I hope it is Hawk and DJ with him, not just DJ in the corner. But then again if Hawk is in on the interview with him, I am sure the conversion will steer toward Georgia and what a great state it is since they are both from there. And if Beckham is a golfer that would be even worst, it would be a 10 minute interview about golf courses in Georgia.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 05:54 PM) I prefer we use Getz tomorrow when Quentin is back(supposedly) Yeah, I am a big fan of Getz and really high on his ability, but you have got to keep Ramirez in the lineup every game because he is a difference maker and it is especially importnat without your best hitter.

Luckily, it's against the Royals, but this isn't the same team as last year who he dominated. Why would we start a guy who was bad in AAA over a guy like Poreda who has the stuff and control or even Carrasco? This organization continues to amaze me with their decisions.

Sweet. Can we just start him in the majors instead of OC? (sarcasm) Can't wait to see what he does and hope he is a big leaguer (maybe 3rd base or 2nd base) by 2010.

Twins LOSE!! Sox back in first.

K 2 out. 1 more out till back in first.

1 out. 2 to go.