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Josh Hader and Adam Frazier
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It would be interesting to know if the Sox are even interested in bringing Ng back. I don't see her wanting to take a job as an advisor or something that doesn't give her some decision authority. So, it would have to be as president of baseball operations or something like that.
Honestly, the only person who would probably be upset is Getz if they hired her. I don't think there's anyone, aside from JR, who thinks promoting Getz as the sole decision maker was a good idea. Which, if he did hire Ng as Getz's boss, would be ironic.
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She'll get hired on as a GM somewhere. I saw the Red Sox mentioned. Too bad JR already said that Getz would be the sole decision maker. She'd be a good option for director of baseball operations. I don't see her coming back to the Sox to take a backseat role.
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The Sox have an opportunity to put together an interesting team for 2024. They won't compete for a playoff spot, but we could see a team that is fun to watch and has some potential future cornerstones. Whether or not they make the right moves remains to be seen. There were some good hires as assistants to Getz that could possibly pull his puppet strings. But let's remember JR is the master puppet string puller here.
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5 hours ago, Boopa1219 said:
Why would the more accomplished Kapler, take a back seat to Grifol?
Why would three more accomplished executives take jobs that were back seats to Getz?
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The only way this would be an even remotely okay move is if a lot of money came with him. But then the Sox would have to include better prospects. So, maybe there really is no way this is a good move.
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Good managers/leaders know they are not the smartest person in the room. Getz seems to be surrounding himself with smarter people who know a lot about baseball. It's a nice first step. I'm particularly optimistic about getting someone in the organization that can (hopefully) improve the pitching on this team.
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I have my doubts about Clevinger returning. He pitched well this year, and there will probably be teams out there willing to give him a better deal than the mutual option. Even with his baggage, I think he'll get a multiple year deal from someone.
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8 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:
Last 37 games, .293/.333/.474/.807
141 plate appearances is a small sample size, but maybe this guy is back to being good again?
we could use a bright spot…
I think health has always been his biggest issue. He definitely seems healthy now, and he hasn't looked this good for a long time. Let's hope he actually does what he said he'd do and prepare better during the off season.
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I think it's easy to look at this and immediately blame the fact that the organization sucks. But this seems more about Colas than anything else. He's not improved after being sent down multiple times and told to work on certain things. Whether it's ability, will, or attitude, he's not doing the things he has been asked to do.
I really don't care who plays RF for the remainder of the season. I don't care about the remainder of the season. If Colas isn't going to do what he needs to do to get better (or he's incapable), send him on his way.
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14 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:
He has .4 fWAR. His wRC is 106. he has almost 1500 MLB PA and his career fWAR is -.4.
He's not good and he's part of the problem. A guy we were counting on to be a star isn't even an average regular.
I did say it's a big if. Still, he's not going to be one of the biggest problems for this team.
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Vaughn is having a better year than the guy he replaced, Jose Abreu. Better BA, power numbers, almost the same number RBIs, and a positive WAR! I think many of us thought they'd have similar years, but Jose's dreadful start gave Vaughn a head start. If (big if, I know) the Vaughn we're seeing now is more like the Vaughn we'll see going forward, I can't complain. If he can be a perennial .265+/25+ HRs/80+ RBIs guy along with playing a serviceable 1B, he'll be far from the biggest problem on the team in 2024 and beyond.
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I didn't watch the game. I was half-contemplating turning it on when my daughter called and said she had a flat tire. Since changing a tire in a Ross parking lot could be more fun than watching a Sox game, I ran out the door.
Moncada looks like a different player, more like the 2021 version. Maybe he's finally healthy. This Yoan Moncada will be nice to have around in 2024, and with it being his last year before potential free agency, he could have a nice season.
It's good to see Vaughn hitting better. His average is trending upward, and he's had some impressive home runs.
Figuring Toussaint will be part of the rotation next season, it's nice to see him have a decent outing. He's got great stuff. If he can get better control, he could be a pretty good starting pitcher.
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None of this is really Getz's fault. No, he's not qualified, and JR's reasoning behind the promotion is just dumb. But he's in the position now, and he has quite the task ahead of him. As others have stated, if he makes some good hires and surrounds himself with knowledgeable people with experience in winning and building good teams, he'll be better off.
Obviously he'll be severely handcuffed on spending. And, sure, the Sox do spend money, like Jerry said. But they spend it on the wrong pieces. A team with a payroll as high as the theirs is should not be nearly as bad as they are. There will be some tough decisions ahead, and hopefully Getz makes some good ones.
I just picture him getting cornered at the winter meetings and being bullied by other GMs. Hopefully he has some people with him to make the right trades and go after the right free agents. No friends and family plans to lure bigger free agents.
The White Sox have emotionally damaged a lot of us this season. I for one am glad the season is almost over and I can focus on football.
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2 minutes ago, Big Hurtin said:
I don't know what goes on in the kitchen, but if the food at a restaurant is awful, I'm not likely to go back.
Yep. And the food has been vomit-inducing in 2023. The head chefs were fired. A new chef is here. He needs to fire the cooks, clean up the kitchen, change the menu, start over.
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16 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:
It's a business but yeah can't imagine Giolito happy about going to Cleveland.
He's got to be more pissed that a team traded for him and then threw him away like nothing.
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1 hour ago, Paulie4Pres said:
I'm done until JR is gone. I'm not alone. An empty stadium is the only thing that is going to even register on their radar. Don't attend games and don't spend a dime on the organization.
Getz being the GM is not going to keep the average fan away. Most casual fans don't know not care who is in the front office. Plenty of people will go to games, buy team gear, and in general keep spending money on the team. A continuously subpar product on the field will have an effect on attendance. This season has been one of the worst in a long time. We'll see what happens moving forward.
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Sit back, relax, and strap it down.
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Getz could gain some instant respect by starting out saying, "Yeah, this s%*# ain't working. The following people are fired..."
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Maybe Getz will just announce himself?
"I'd like to introduce White Sox fans to the new Head of Baseball Operations."
*spins in a circle*
"Thanks, Chris. I'm excited to be..."
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Jimenez is quietly having a decent year. HIs ground ball rate is atrocious, though. Even Jason and Steve were talking about how bad it is. His power numbers would be much better if he could start hitting the ball in the air. But, he's been surprisingly healthy, his average is up there, and he's been a DH for about 85% of his plate appearances.
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Just now, DirtySox said:
Prove me wrong and make some meaningful change across the org. If you're allowed to.
Bleh.
With the "hiring" coming from inside the organization, I'd be surprised if Grifol was canned. However, I think Katz has to go. I don't know how much was his fault, but no one was better this year. Cease fell off a cliff, Giolito was spotty and overall not great, Lynn was a BP pitcher. If nothing else, fresh blood and new ideas.
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Okay, it is what it is. Let's see what he can (is allowed) to do.
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44 minutes ago, Chimpton said:
I did nearly include Moncada in the list as he seems good at the moment, but it very much depends if his back problems are actually sorted or just temporarily less of an issue. His contract aside, having a fit and healthy Moncada next season playing like this will be very useful.
Eloy's fitness will always be an issue but he has been better this season.
I haven't watched much but a few innings here and there, but Moncada looks a lot better recently. His defense is as good as ever, if not better, and he's looked much more in control at the plate. He'll be part of the team next season, so if this is the guy we'll have patrolling 3B, that's fine.
MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
in Pale Hose Talk
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Jason can then mention every day that Nicky is from Naperville.