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What would you suggest they do differently, out of curiosity?

It has always taken only one minor error to destroy a Dem's campaign. Especially so this cycle because Trump will seize on it, use it ad nauseam and never let it go until it destroys you. Liz is done. I'm sorry. But in Trump world - in this current political environment - she just is. You can scream about how it's not fair (it isn't), but it's reality. Trump is far and away the favorite to get re-elected right now. He's the better campaigner, better manipulator, owns the media, and regarding to Liz she gave him exactly what he wanted yesterday.

Uh, it has nothing to do with 2 years from now. The primary starts in 3 weeks.

Hint: It's the orange guy.

Yeah was talking about this with some campaign people today and Warren really shot herself in the foot. Completely unforced error that didn't have to be made whatsoever. 2020 is going to be a bloodbath. They've all got fatal flaws. The question is who's left standing after the frontrunners tear each other apart.

To be honest with you - I don't know enough about his specific issues and how you deal with the interplay between doctor/insurance companies/workers comp/etc - I don't know the policies that would fix that for him because it's not my area of expertise. But what worked with him was just talking about the fact that she's union born-and-raised, fought for collective bargaining and was reprimanded on the House floor while doing it, that she's endorsed by all the major unions. If you're looking at your options and you've got a guy who fights to make sure insurance companies can charge whatever they want and make more money off you (Rs privatized medicaid in IA) and runs a company that buries big corporations' FDA violations, OR someone whose Dad is a pipefitter (like he is), grew up in a union town, who has and will continue to fight for policies that put workers first and will fight for a public option and access to medicare for everyone... which one you think is more likely to have your back? Was not a tough sell.

You gaslight pretty well, too!

Sorry guys - just spent a couple hours chillin' w/ Sen. Jeff Merkley - that super establishment Senator from Oregon. Where were we? Oh yeah - all Democrats not directly endorsed by Bernie are bad and aren't "progressive" enough, and my candidate could totes talk about playing video games 22 days out and not take a political hit.

She says it at events, at the debate, in interviews, etc.

Can you give me something post-2016? Because in the era of Bernie and DSA etc, they've had a grand total of zero primary wins.

She supports a public option and allowing anyone under 65 to buy in to medicare

1) She's not a centrist, she's running a smart campaign. I talk to voters every. single. day. that tell me she's glad our candidate is moderate and willing to work with both sides. We'd be losing if she went full AOC. 2) The win is far from a sure thing. Recent polls are incredibly tight 3) My point was that if my candidate had tweeted that 22 days out from an election it would've been in GOP attack ads instantaneously - capitalizing on her youth, "inexperience", "entitlement", etc.

How many of Bernie's endorsed candidates won here this cycle in their primaries?

Seriously, come on out to Cedar Rapids - it's not far - and knock doors with me and see if you're right about this. Because you might actually hear me ask every single person I talk to about the issues that they're concerned about and that matter to them. Spent 15 minutes talking with an out-of-work pipefitter who's on worker's comp that's about to run out because his doctor told him he's as healed as he's ever going to get. Only problem? He can't lift his arm above his shoulder. You try doing the job of a pipefitter if you can't put your arm above your head. He's screwed. And he's screwed because of omnipotent insurance companies and shitty workers laws in Iowa. But yeah - I def don't listen to the people I talk to. Keep running with your assumptions. Or how bout you come put your money where your mouth is for a second?

That's my fucking point. All of you point to her and other progressives on the coast as a sign that "progressivism" works everywhere - and I'm sorry but AOC wouldn't work in the midwest. You all know that, too, you're just choosing to fight with me because you're entrenched in your position and saying "you're right" isn't fun.

The point was that 1) the people that would appeal to don't vote and 2) we're having enough problems here electing a 29 year old without her tweeting about playing video games. It would literally be game over in rural Iowa.

You must understand my point. The demographic that wants to hear that their 29 year old candidate is playing video games 22 days out from the election is not the demographic that votes.

How many of them voted?

10/10 would get crushed in the Midwest

Okay. Can you point out how my candidate is establishment, or how I sell her at the doors is problematic/establishment

By the way I'm not crafting anything. It's all true.

Uh, authenticity is the thing my candidate has going for her above all else. The two paragraphs in your comment are contradictory. Trump didn't win because of policy. He won because he connected to people's gut. The vast majority of people don't vote for policy. This has been proven time and time again by researchers. It's emotions and a gut reaction. Like you said, authenticity.

lol. I was referring to my candidate, not me.

I'm not convincing them to vote for a party - I'm talking to them about a candidate. I almost never talk about Democrat or Republican. I talk about how she's the daughter of a pipefitter welder and school district secretary, whose sister and brother-in-law run a family farm. Put herself through college and has the student loan debt to show for it. About how the three things that are under attack in Iowa right now are unions, education funding and our family farms, and all three things hit her where she lives. That's her friends and her family. So who do you trust to fight for those things? A multi-millionaire with ethics violations who voted to give the top 1% huge tax cuts or someone who lives it every day? It's pretty easy actually. She *is* this district.

Yes, a 29 year old who grew up in a working class family and who has student loan debt is definitely the establishment. You're like a meme of all Bernie supporters. It's hard to believe you're real sometimes.