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QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:37 PM) Any estimation as to when Obama will speak? When Romney finally admits hes lost.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:32 PM) Legalizing marijuana wouldn't put drug dealers out of work. It would put small time drug dealers out of business. I don't care about marijuana, but some of the drugs namely heroin and other drugs that act as a perfect pharmalogical lock for our neuro receptors are a bad idea to legalize. Certain chemicals are extremely addictive because they are engineered perfectly. Yeah some drugs really should not be for public consumption. Its a hard issue for me because I dont like govt intervention yet.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:26 PM) if they legalized marijuana in Chicago and found a way to sell it through places like Walgreens and CVS, the unemployment numbers would skyrocket with all the out-of-job drug dealers. #theytookourjobs But theyd need more store clerks at Walgreens. Lets do this Illinois 2014,

He has 2 different predictions. 313 is the aggregate, 330ish is the most likely outcome.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 09:42 PM) haha. hopefully it was a Romney ad. It was a Republican ad on CNN, lol.

I just saw a political ad, seems a little late now.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) But saying it is close is also heard from the other side, and could, if your theory is correct, encourage the other side out to vote. Saying you are blowing them out even if you are not isn't bad strategy, and there is always a slight chance it's even correct. its the same with saying its a landslide, it could drive the other sides people to go out and vote as a hail mary. Regardless, I dont think people are stupid enough to just blindly believe what people are saying on tv. Which is why it reminds me of Baghdad Bob, and why I think its a terrible strategy.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:56 PM) GOP always gets Texas. There's your urban state. They've been getting Florida, there's another. The fact is until the extreme right realizes it's better to lose the battles of gay marriage and abortion in order to win the war, they're going to get crushed. And it's going to be harder and harder as time goes by because Democrats are pandering like crazy to the Hispanic vote which is getting bigger and bigger. I should have been more clear. An urban state that was not part of the confederacy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:55 PM) And if he said things weren't looking so good, he woul have a hard time getting more votes. People like going with winners. Bandwagon fans isn't exclusive to sports. You dont have to say things arent looking good. I posted a better statement above that keeps it positive but also reinforces the fact that everyone still needs to vote, because my projection is based on them doing it.

I wouldnt hire any strategist who came out and said "we are going to get over 300, its not going to be close." Its not about the polls or anything, its about strategy. And if that is their "strategy" id never hire them, because I think that a better strategy is: "We are going to win, its going to be close, we need everyone to get out there and share the victory with us. We may even be able to get over 300 electoral votes if all of our people show up in force like we think they will." But thats just me.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:47 PM) If they are knowingly lying publicly, Mitt could just tell the next guy running for election that these guys were giving him good numbers secretly. That may be true, but I think their strategy is defective. Id need to see some evidence that showed that somehow telling people its going to be a landslide increased voting in their favor. That to me just goes against all common sense. For example, Obama is going to win IL. Many Obama voters are indifferent on voting because their vote doesnt matter. They dont go out and vote just to say they voted.

Yeah but his campaign strategist will want another job and if Im hiring Id say that its a terrible idea to say you are going to win big. I personally believe that people are more likely to vote when they think its close and believe that there vote is the difference between a loss and a win. If I think my guy is going to win no matter what, why sit in line?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) Edit: It's also pretty sad when you look at how much less people are voting (or expected to vote) for Obama than 4 years ago. A competent Republican candidate would have cleaned house in this election. Unfortunately, you have to sell your soul to the devil to get elected as the GOP candidate, even if you truly are more moderate. Maybe, its hard to tell. Basically youd need a Republican candidate who can deliver 1 big urban state. Given the current Republican platform they just are not going to get a lot of traction in major metropolitan areas. Id personally rather burn money on the street than let the govt tell me how to live my life socially.

I get that its their strategy to say that they are winning, but it comes off as Baghdad Bob. Win or lose tonight, I would think they would still want some credibility tomorrow.

It really isnt about Obama or Romney, its just the continued battle of Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson. If you live in the city, your life is really not comparable to someone who lives in the country. Thus city folk are generally on 1 side of gun control, welfare, etc. where as country folk are on the other. The oddity of this election is that Romney is somewhat an urban candidate, but he was limited by the "core" values of certain Republicans

Not that were doomed. But making statements that hes only writing a victory speech. His campaign saying they are going to win big. Conversely, Obama is kind of being low key. As I said, it gives me pause.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) Who is winning? As of yesterday I heard on the shows that Romney would win in a landslide; Obama would win in a landslide and Obama would win narrowly. Only scenario I did not hear was Romney would win narrowly. No one knows for sure. In my opinion indications are Obama will win. But the hubris from Romney's team gives me pause.

I voted for Obama. In the grand scheme of things it probably doesnt matter for me personally, I just think that Romney is more likely to screw middle/lower income people and I really dislike that. I could be wrong, but that is what my heart is telling me.

I think exit poll talk should start in 15 minutes, so at least there will be something to b**** about soon.

I agree, number 1 rule is generally to under-promise and over-deliver. I get that they think he can win, and there is no problem being optimistic. But its like a White Sox fan in September of 2012 going "Not only are the Sox going to win the division, its not even going to be close." It could happen, but every indicator in the world seems to be trending for Obama. I wouldnt even think an Obama adviser would say that it wont be close.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 03:12 PM) She's going to be upset when Romney loses by a lot. hell at least lose IL, and quite frankly why wouldnt you take advantage of early voting if you are that pregnant. Here is from Romney's camp: Thats pretty optimistic. Id think theyd just be happy winning.

If you are wondering why its clear that someone is messing with it, look at how few lots are on the opposite sides: Obama (buy): Best (highest) price members are buying at Price per share Quantity $6.92 200 shares $6.91 1 share $6.90 76 shares $6.89 51 shares $6.88 16 shares $6.86 16 shares $6.85 501 shares $6.83 17 shares $6.82 3 shares $6.81 12 shares $6.80 226 shares $6.79 30 shares $6.78 15 shares $6.77 25 shares $6.76 31 shares Romney (sell): Best (lowest) price members are selling at Price per share Quantity $3.08 2 shares $3.09 70 shares $3.11 101 shares $3.12 800 shares $3.20 101 shares $3.28 100 shares $3.29 1654 shares $3.30 50 shares $3.33 456 shares $3.34 71 shares $3.37 98 shares $3.40 650 shares $3.49 15 shares $3.50 550 shares $3.57 8 shares

Here are the lots that are currently for sale on intrade for Obama: $7.02 25 shares $7.03 19 shares $7.04 23 shares $7.05 3742 shares $7.06 9997 shares $7.07 4999 shares $7.10 9458 shares $7.14 9712 shares Here are Romney's to buy: $2.99 8508 shares $2.98 31 shares $2.97 25 shares $2.96 29 shares $2.92 4890 shares $2.90 6900 shares $2.85 4999 shares $2.80 10000 shares Seems like someone is artificially ensuring that it doesnt go drastically over $7 for Obama or under $3 for Romney.

Im not sure I agree with Lohan's stance of ruining female actresses looks.