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76ers just played better Bulls basketball. They caused more turnovers, more fast break points, more points in the paint and most importantly didnt turn the ball over for 23 minutes. Bulls should watch how they played.

Its just night and day when the Bulls are passing the ball instead of just iso dribbling. They have 4-5 guys on the court who can pass the ball, use them all, dont just rely on the damn pg.

Well time to forget about this game, 76ers are super hot, Bulls cant make anything and refs wont even give them a pity call.

Yeah Feb 2, 76ers outscored Bulls 26-11 in the third

Didnt the Bulls get blitzed by the 76ers in a quarter this year before?

With or without Rose its the same nonsense for the Bulls. They get stagnant on offense and just have the PG dominate the ball and hope for something good. With Rose you have a chance, but with Watson/Lucas the Bulls really need to start running plays to get guys open.

RUN A PLAY

Well the first thing is that the bulls need to start running plays on offense. if Thibs thinks that they are going to win games with PG iso and just a few screens its foolish. 76ers are tearing the bulls apart on set plays.

Im just not sure if the 76ers are just really hot or the defense is just really bad. Bulls offense is on pace to score 100 points, with their defense that should win games. Im hoping for a 5 minute 76ers drought that brings them down to closer to 50% shooting.

Its about turnovers leading to fast breaks so that the defense cant set. You just have to keep the turnovers down otherwise the entire system falls apart.

Wow really really sloppy basketball. Have to play efficient offense, its how the entire team works.

Damnit Holiday, law of averages.

Bulls with 16 assists on 24 made baskets. Thankfully they have players who can facilitate offense and get good shots for their teammates.

Rose is gone, no use worrying or thinking about his return.

Steve, You really worried Holiday wont miss a shot and the 76ers will shoot over 50% from the field? Because law of averages suggests otherwise.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) lol. You hate the stat but you're gonna use it anyway if it can somehow support your case. You had the audacity to say that Hibbert, like Howard, gives the Heat major match-up problems. That's just false. Anyway, this is now entering Balta/2K5 territory. If LeBron tears his ACL instead of Rose, the Bulls are automatically in the finals. Ain't nobody gonna be saying "look out for the Pacers." I'm done now. The bold is false, where did I ever use the word "major". I said that Hibbert would be a match up problem. If you want to disagree with that go ahead. And just go back to meming, that is what you are good at. HEAT CANT BE BEAT!!!!!! Its just so boring.

Hibbert 12-9 West 12-6 Hansbrough 9-4 Miami front court: Bosh 18-6 Haslem 6-7 Anthony 3-4 Hibberts per of 19.4 (i do hate this stat) was better than Bosh's per of 18.8 I do love Hibbert though, I guess Im nostalgic for Georgetown Centers.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 1, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) You could always just start making absolute claims, thats always fun. We can talk about how it is assured the Heat will win every title from 2011 on and will easily eclipse the 72-10 record the Bulls posted. haha im pretty sure in last years NBA thread Im on record as saying I dont think the Heat will ever break that record and that I didnt think they were put together very well because Lebron/Wade is hard to coexist. If anything Im just sticking to my original belief that the Heat arent as great as people believe they are.

Why can the Pacers beat the Heat? Its pretty simple, the Pacers have Hibbert/West, where as the Heat have Bosh/Haslem and friends. If Hibbert can stay out of foul trouble and the Pacers can get the rebounding edge against the Heat, it could be a really long series for the Heat. In the game where the Pacers won, they outrebounded the Heat 49-33 (+16), including 14 offensive rebounds. In the games where the Pacers lost they were outrebounded by 6 and 11 respectively. Furthermore the Pacers squad is just not a great defensive match up for the Heat. Its likely that Lebron takes Granger, which then puts Bosh on West and Wade rotating on whoever they think is more dangerous at the moment (Collison, Price, George, whoever.) When you look at that the clear problem for the Heat is Hibbert (much like the Howard situation) except for the Pacers PF is better than the Magic. Either way, there is likely going to be a front court mismatch for the Pacers that the Heat just do not have an answer for. Now this is not to say the Pacers will win, or even will be the favorites, it is more to suggest that if the Heat do not play their best game and the Pacers can take advantage of what should be there inherent rebounding/inside advantage, the Heat could lose. It has nothing to do with the Bulls or Rose or anything. If you go back through this thread, I dont post much until after NCAA season. I just dont have the time to be seriously following 2 basketball sports at the same time, so most of my activity comes after the NCAA tournament. Now that we are in the playoffs and you have some indication of what the match ups would be, its easier to talk about. Im not sure if I said it, but another poster said that it would be huge for the Bulls to avoid the Pacers in round 2 and I agreed with that wholeheartedly. The implication obviously was that the Pacers could have given a healthy Bulls a challenge. I personally find discussing the actual match ups more interesting than saying "The Heat cant lose". Now maybe the Heat will win, they have to be the favorites, but favorites dont always win.

I guess because I thought maybe people in this thread had individual opinions and would want to discuss basketball, instead of merely saying "There are only 2 good teams in the East and with Rose injured no one can beat the Heat." If I wanted that type of hard hitting news, Id start watching ESPN again.

What are you talking about? I commented how no one was talking about the Pacers. I then said if they play the Heat the Pacers could give them a good fight. How is that putting anyone through? Its merely discussing a potential playoff match up that may occur. No where did I say the Pacers wont lose to the Magic (I just dont think the Magic would have a shot at the Heat) thus my comments about if the Pacers play them. I guess its more interesting to talk about a match up like the Pacers- Heat, then a match up of the Magic - Heat. (edit) And as usual the discussion of a potential Pacers-Heat series devolved into, no one can beat the Heat.

lol This is exactly what Im talking about. Why dont we just give the Heat the trophy? The Pacers (a team that beat them by 15 this year) cant beat them, so why even play the games?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 1, 2012 -> 04:30 PM) And my point continues to evade you. No one team in the NBA is built around 1 guy the way the Magic are built around Howard. The Pacers won the lotto when they drew Orlando. When you get a break like that, you sweep that team and move on. If they have to dick around with Orlando, what the hell are they supposed to do with the Heat? No I completely understand your point, it just is irrelevant. Good teams lose to bad teams all the time. 1 game does not mean anything. If they go on and win this series in 5 or 6 games, it really doesnt matter. When they play the Heat the focus is going to be entirely different. You keep acting like 1 game where the Pacers lost by 4 points is some sort of harbinger of things to come, that a team cant possibly lose 1 game and then come back and play well. I just entirely disagree. If the Pacers advance, their series with the Heat will start 0-0, regardless of what happened in the previous series. I can bring a plenty of examples where a team loses more games than their opponent in the series before and then beats the opponent. I can bring examples of teams who lost a game in the first round and won the Championship. There just is very little correlation that if you lose a game in a round you will do worse in the next round.

Im not comparing the teams at all. Your contention is that losing a game in the first round means something. My contention is that what matters is winning the series. This isnt baseball where if you play an extra game maybe you wont have the best pitching match ups. Its basketball, 1 extra game doesnt mean squat.

Some places did give Reiff a LT grade (the reason I know is that in this thread I argued that drafting Reiff made no sense because if Carimi wasnt an LT than Reiff wasnt a LT) but a poster pointed out that scouts were saying Reiff could go LT. Either way Im excited for Carimi to play LT or RT.