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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 12:56 AM) I'm not talking about Chrome on Macs, I'm talking about Chrome on iOS. Chrome on iOS is crippled. It can't download files unless you get a downloader extension through Cydia, which requires you to jailbreak your iDevice. It also can't run JavaScript well nor can it be made the default browser. All thanks to Apple since third party apps are limited to the UIWebView and not the newer Nitro JS. This is exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about when I say closed system. Apple doesn't want a superior browser taking over on their device so it intentionally cripples other web browsers. They're scared of competition. Just curious though, what exactly do you do? Chrome on iOS is crippled, in a few ways. One, it's not allowed to use the nitro java engine as you correctly pointed out, so it's slower by default, and two, you cannot change the default browser on iOS, again, as you pointed out. This IS a drawback to iOS unless you jailbreak it. I don't like this, but it's not a deal killer for ME...if it bothered me that much, I'd buy a different phone (Android). For others, if it was a sticking point to them, I'd recommend they get an Android phone...because jailbreaking is stupid. You shouldn't have to jailbreak a modern device to get it to work the way YOU need it to work...when alternatives exist can can already do that by default. That said, it IS a operating system weakness in the closed and tightly controlled iOS. (Hey, that was me being biased for Apple again!) Oh, wait...no...it was me pointing out a glaring deficiency in iOS. This is why calling me biased about Apple continuously falls flat. Another weakness of iOS, no file viewer/access to the file system...as an advanced user, this would be nice...but I understand why they lock it down for the majority of their users who are surely not advanced and would only break their phones with this kind of access. Edit: To say Apple is scared of competition is just a fallacy. They have a ton of competition around them, from Android, Windows, etc. What Apple does is go out of it's way to keep it's OS universal so when users call in or come in for tech support, it's all the same defaults/same basic layout. This has nothing to do with being afraid of competition. Android has the opposite problem or too many alternative defaults, making support a massive hassle. Even Microsoft locked down Windows Mobile 7 and 8 for the same reason as Apple...it's easier to support internally, and it's cheaper to fix when a problem arises.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 12:40 AM) How is this non-sensical? You're honestly biased as hell when anyone posts anything regarding Apple's products. Either that or you didn't even read or get my point. First of all, you CAN open Powerpoint files legally on iOS. You just have to pay $15 to do it. Second, a huge reason I am complaining is because Apple protects its filesystem. If I wanted to do the exact same thing on Android, I can easily go to my favorite file explorer (which can be had for free and I don't need to jailbreak to use it) and open the file I just downloaded up. Everything is tied together and apps can share data with each other through intents. But with iOS, I have to jailbreak it in order to just take some notes on a Powerpoint file? WTF? Why should anybody have to go through that route to do something as simple as note taking? And why would I buy a Windows phone to take notes? It's non-sensical for the reasons I posted. You are going to have a hard time finding people here that agree with you that I'm biased about Apple products...I'm one of the first people that tells people to use what works for them, I don't just recommend Apple to everyone/anyone without knowing what they need it for. I'm not biased to Apple. I'm biased to facts. When I see a weakness in something Apple, I'll say so. As I have in the past, and as I will in the future. Here is why your original post was non-sensical...repeated for your READING pleasure: First, you are simply doing it the wrong way...as RR said...user error. The way/method you've chosen to download files (using Chrome) doesn't work well with iOS...so why would you do it that way? Again, I've pointed out you're using a wrench to hammer in a nail, when you should just use the hammer. Second, I never said you couldn't open powerpoint files in iOS, I said you couldn't open them in the application you wanted to open them in. Even in Android, despite having a "file finder/explorer" you STILL need an application installed that can open/read powerpoint files...this point seems lost on you. You keep ignoring the fact you are using a proprietary/owned technology and if you want to open and use those files, you will probably have to pay for it or download some free alternatives that are limited to viewing them. Wow, look at that, I typed powerpoint into the Apple App store, and a bunch of *FREE* viewers or paid editors for powerpoint popped up that can read and display and/or edit them. Even Apples Keynote which can view AND edit powerpoint files is only 9$. I never said buy a windows phone to take notes, I said buy it and you'd stop having issues with any sort of file/program owned by the company that makes it. Once again, reading failed you.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:32 PM) Y2HH I just blatantly plagiarized one of your posts on my Facebook status, lol I read it, doesn't seem very plagiarized to me.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) LOL, no I know that because I work in technology with some of the most bleeding edge software programmers in the industry as well as visit just about every Fortune 1000 company in the marketplace. I know from experience. Second, I dont have any of those problems you cited whatsoever. We have over 300 people using macs with chrome with zero issues. I also use my ipad for day to day work and presentations seamlessly, I also take notes on my ipad in every meeting I am in and share them with co-workers realtime. Sounds like user error to me. He's taking about using PowerPoint presentations on software that doesn't support it. This would be like trying to open PowerPoint on windows in notepad. It's using a wrench when he needs a hammer.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:12 PM) Since I have an iPad I feel like having an iPhone would be redundant. But I've had Android phones since the G1 and I keep using them just because it's what I know. An iPhone pretty much does all the same things. At time the fanboy arguments get funny to me. For me, I'm cool with this heated competition because it means better phones for me when I go to the store. I agree with this completely.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) Where I was going with this is to say that Google and Apple don't play well together. For obvious reasons. I wasn't referring to the native vs. the iOS version, I mean the actual gmail app vs. the account within the settings menu that you have to add. That thing sucks ass, I couldn't ditch it fast enough. It's like using Gmail on MS Outlook, it just feels... wrong Yea, it's functional, but not for contact synching, and I don't really understand why. Android has it's benefits and flaws, just as iOS and WM8 have. It comes down to personal choice and function. If Apple devices cannot do what a person wants to do...don't get one. I don't really understand why people force themselves to use technology that isn't useful for what they need. This is like using a wrench to hammer in a nail...when you could have used a hammer.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Apple's stock email program sucks. But when I installed the gmail app it's flawless just like the Android app or using gmail on the computer (it's hard to convince me there is a better web-based email than gmail) So let's say I go to gmail and I add Y2HH's phone number to my contacts. On my HTC Sensation, within a few seconds it will load your name and phone number to my phone (because I have that as my default contacts list, in Google's cloud). How do I get this to show on my iPad's contacts list WITHOUT hooking the f***ing thing up to iTunes? The less I have to use iTunes (for anything), the better. I use it all the time and have no issues with it...then again the function you wish to use isn't really implemented fully. It IS one of the faults I have with Apple, in that they don't allow you to set other browsers or email application as defaults. This is protectionism which I dislike, but for my specific uses it happens to not matter...but for others it would be annoying. I believe Microsoft is going to follow suit on this with WM7 and WM8, unfortunately. You are comparing Apples to Oranges here, however. Google owns Gmail...so of course their native Gmail app is better on their OWN operating system versus what is available via iOS. The reason is the iOS functions are still in "beta" according to Google, and have been for over a year. The known workaround to this is to install your gmail as an "exchange" account on iOS. Don't ask why...but people have found it works. It's unnecessarily complicated and stupid, but it's the best available at the minute. Note that Google Calendars works fine with iOS, but their Contacts don't...why? Who knows. I sure don't. Detailed Instructions: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_t...one_or_ipad.php

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:53 PM) I don't know how many times you've said this, but it's like Steve Jobs and now Tim Cook have hardcoded this into your brain. Apple has buzz words and phrases down to a tee and it seems like the people who use Apple products just take what they see from the ads and keynotes. And you know what the worst part is? When you ask people who like Apple why they like Apple. The response is..."IT WORKS". Really? It better work for the amount of money you paid. Want to be a little more specific? You'll get answers like "It's so intuitive" and "it's so seamless". It's not like I don't own an Apple product. I do and I don't find them THAT intuitive or THAT seamless. Here's a great example of something that I go through on a regular basis: I want to download my daily lecture notes for a class. I go on Chrome and oh guess what, Apple's stupid anti-competition policies don't allow Chrome to download the file. No jailbreak = no downloads on Chrome. The even worse part is that even with the Chrome downloader, I can't download Powerpoint files. Okay, I'll just go on Safari. So I download the Powerpoint and guess what? I can't open it with my note taking app. Alright, fine, I'll go get an app to print it to a PDF or just use QuickOffice (yours for a $15 value) to convert it. Alright, done. BUT HOW THE HELL DO I OPEN IT IN MY NOTE TAKING APP? Oh, yeah, you have to go to iFile and find the file in the mess of folders and then you can open it up in your note taking app. And oh, you need a jailbroken iPad for iFile. I go through this process at least twice a week and it takes me a good 5 minutes to finally start taking notes. SO INTUITIVE, SO SEAMLESS. I only needed 4 applications and a jailbroken iPad to start taking notes on it like I'm supposed to. THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. And it's the perfect example why a closed ecosystem like iOS can restrict a device's usability. Thank goodness for the iOS hacking community. Otherwise, my iPad would be nothing more than something I can watch baseball games on. Before you ask why I don't just sync the lectures through iTunes... 1. Slides usually don't go up until an hour before class. Professors are busy/lazy. 2. Who the hell wants to sync anything through iTunes? This post makes no sense at all. Allow me to rip it to shreds now. How could you open a Powerpoint Presentation in an app that didn't license the use of the MICROSOFT owned technology? Answer: You legally can't. So blaming Apple for this is nonsensical and silly. You are talking about proprietary technologies owned by third parties. Powerpoint isn't owned by Apple, so Apple would have to license it for a note taking app to open it...and since Microsoft doesn't allow that for just any old application, they couldn't if they wanted too. This has nothing to do with Apples "closed system", it has everything to do with the technology you are speaking of being owned by someone else. In all seriousness...you are using the wrong device for the specific function you wish to use it with. So I ask, why would you do this? Get a Windows Mobile 7/8 phone and these issues you are having with a proprietary Microsoft own technology would go away. But b****ing because Apple devices aren't seamless at opening technologies they aren't legally allowed to open is a pretty silly example of something being nonintuitive/seamless.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) Not everything on iOS is "seamless" or "easy to use" Try searching for an email you got in 2008 using the built-in email program without using the exact phrase you're searching for Try syncing Google contacts with your Apple device... Try updating those contacts in real-time I do all of these things without a problem... Seriously. What is the issue you are having exactly? Every one of the things you requested I do worked fine.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:21 PM) Apple products just work. But for me the value increases by quite a bit when you have several of them so they can interop with each other. My apple TV for example does a nice job of tying everything together from a media standpoint. Careful, you'll get called a fanboi for stating your opinion based on your *actual* experiences with Apple products. I get this often, despite having actual experience on other platforms for various reasons.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 05:00 PM) I don't know if this is better or worse than people who argue over which gaming consoles are better. It's the same. It's choice. Instead of being happy to have choice, they'd rather argue about why theirs is awesome, instead of actually being open minded about it and TRYING other stuff and making a decision of their own.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 04:24 PM) It's hard when you have such a pointless agenda. Like I said, he adds nothing to the technology conversation of worth, ever. He's trolling now, because it's all he does here. Ignore it.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 04:10 PM) Nope, but hiring ex-educators who have no stake with either CPS or CTU would. I dont recall saying that it should be like jury selection where anyone could be it. They would set up a committee, the committee would have people who have experience in education, and they would make independent decisions. Or hell just they look over appeals if either side doesnt agree with the ruling. It really isnt that hard to come up with a solution that is beneficial to the children. Its very difficult to come up with a solution that is beneficial to teachers being able to keep their jobs and beneficial to administrators being able to fire teachers. Or do nothing because it's so expensive... But give them all raises, regardless of their deserving of them (good vs bad teachers), because unlike in every other job in the universe, there is no way to gauge if they suck at what they do. I call bs on all of that. There are ways to figure out if teachers are good or bad, use them. Colleges do it, private schools do it...get it done. Or don't...and let the kids grow up in a world where they have no chance to even be middle class.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) It is so perfect. The Onion has such a great staff. I really wish you'd have something valuable to add to these technology conversations...but you never do.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:48 PM) So being the patient human I am I waited for the iphone to come out before I bought anything. My last samsung (pre-android, galaxy) really annoys the hell out of me, so Im leaning towards Apple. That being said, if an android platform is better, I would prefer it. But it's not better. It's just user preference. I've used Android, Windows Mobile and iOS. They all perform the same basic functions, and are all about looks/style/feel. Apples advantage is the 3rd party support, instant software upgrades, and a huge app library/support structure. Apple's hardware/software tends to work together a bit better than alternatives because they control both. But that said, it's strictly user preference. The iPhone 5 is a capable device, as is the Samsung Galaxy SIII, etc... If you hack Android, you can hack iPhones, too...if that's your game.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:45 PM) LOL. The Onion rocks, and is dead on. http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-ann...dline%3Adefault Uh, no, it's not dead on. It's a joke. But dead on? How about no.

Installing iOS6 Gold Master now. Edit: Rock, if you want iOS6GM, I can give it to you...just PM me your UDID # from iTunes so I can enable it through Apple and I'll give you a link to the software.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) A few bits of data from "The Chicago Reporter" I don't know Illinois state government well enough to know where the money the state collects gets to, but I thought in particular the last nugget was particularly noteworthy. That's because they borrowed billions from the pensions and gambled it away...and now they have insolvent guaranteed public pensions they need to fix. So, they raise taxes on the state/local level through the roof, and it can't even make a dent in the problem they created, so they start taking it from everywhere else, too...such as schools. And IL/Chicago residents will continue to re-elect them.

I don't care where they find the money, but they need to stop finding it in the form of tax increases. IL/Chicago has the highest effective taxes in the nation now...and after the recent tax hikes in both areas, in almost everything they could find to tax, my local taxes have more than DOUBLED over the course of a year. Easy to say when you aren't the ones paying it...but I am. My income tax DOUBLED. What I pay on my house DOUBLED. We aren't talking a few bucks here...but thousands per year. With the highest taxes in the nation, they should be able to fix these issues without further taxation, it's gotten out of hand. My family now has about 5,000 LESS because of these recent increases...and what have they fixed? Not a single f***ing thing. So to anyone who suggests even more taxes/fees...f*** you right in the face.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) You can look at page 33 of CTU's plan for better schools to see their answers on funding. You can disagree with them policy-wise on raising or shifting taxes in Chicago or on city and state resource allocation, but you can't pretend that the school budget is some fixed, impossible-to-change number. If we want to prioritize education over some other program or service, we can. There is not necessarily a direct trade-off required between classroom and school resources and teachers' wages. With all the tax, service fee and various increases in this city/state over the past few years, you'd think they'd have made a dent in their budgetary holes...but they haven't. Taxes in Chicago are insane. Name the service, taxes/fees have gone up on it drastically over the last few years, including property taxes...yet nothing has changed. So I'm pretty f***ing sick and tired of people bringing up further tax increases. How about you f***ing pay them since you want them so bad.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 01:59 PM) It could come from elsewhere in the Chicago budget or from increased or different taxation. Part of the message of the strike would be that the government (Emmanuel, school board) are not best-serving the interests of the public in that they're under-funding education. Farley's point 3 discusses that. Those links are broader discussions than what specifically CTU is striking over, though. Edit: just keep in mind that they're pieces of political rhetoric and they're mainly about some upper-crust liberals not really supporting labor unions. The first two are in response to Yglesias' piece here, which I forgot to link. WTF how about no on the taxes. We already pay one of the highest taxes on everything in the states. It's getting harder and harder to live with all these taxes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) So basically it's a large upgrade but it's not going to rewrite the book. That's actually what I was afraid of...I was hoping they had something astonishing in this model that would make it a no-brainer to upgrade. There won't really be any such things until the next quantum leap in cellular/battery technology comes around...which won't be for a while. They're just computers at this point, and will be incremental upgrades across the board, regardless of it being Apple, Samsung, etc...there isn't much more to do at the moment.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 01:17 PM) If I order things on the first pre-order day, I usually get it a day earlier than launch even...I dunno if that is related to me being on the west coast or not... That has everything to do with your shipper (fedex/ups) not following Apples instructions of not delivering until they say, not location. More often than not, you're device will be at the local carrier on hold for a few days when they ship them. My iPad3 was held at the local facility for days before they delivered it to me. Some of the shippers simply don't care.

Oh, the new phone ships next week. Pre orders on the 14th. Ships on the 21st.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Yeah, I agree...the only times I really burn through it is when I am texting continuously throughout s***ty Sox games like last night ...and that's an AT&T problem...with the crappy signals at games like that despite having a full signal.