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QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 6, 2018 -> 08:47 AM)Who are you and what did you do with B>W? Just kidding.
That crowd was dead but Asuka maybe the best part of Raw right now. Didn't see 3 way but Elias pinning Cena works. Great promo by Alexa as well.
Yeah, still not getting the Asuka thing.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 12:55 PM)Did you see the video of Braun trying to teach Alexa to flip a car? It's funny.
All he little videos the teams have been putting out have been fun.
Between those and Talking Smack/Raw Talk, it would be great if they'd just let these guys do non scripted stuff and show their real personalities.
Yes, it was hilarious and it's to be continued -- I hope Alexa smashes the car with a mack truck or uses a fork lift to flip it now.
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Alexa Bliss and Braun Strowman are the greatest tag-team I never knew I needed until it became a thing.
That had to be the most *sports entertaining* match I've watched in eons. Just all around perfect.
I really wish they'd allow this mixed-match to bleed over into regular WWE canon (if you could call it that), Bliss and Strowman would make such a perfect Black Widow/Hulk combo it's not even funny. Just portray her as the ONLY person Strowman likes, and have her use him to wreck faces whenever she's in a bad mood. Would just be amazing.
That Twisted Bliss off his shoulders was amazing.
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Also of note, now that Charlotte is out of the 5 v 5, if Paige makes a surprise return to join team Smackdown, I expect team RAW to lose that match, regardless of Asuka.
In this scenario, I bet we see Paige help Alexa beat Charlotte, setting up a pretty major feud for Smackdown. This protects Charlotte and gives Alexa bragging rights that she put down the entire 4 Horsewomen.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 11:02 AM)I'd go if I were you. How often will you get a chance to see HHH, Angle, and Cena on the same show again?
Asuka has to be a Survivor for Raw women, or her being brought up and put in the match is for naught.
Would also like to see a Roode turn. Maybe he gets stuck in the ring with Braun and just walks out. I dunno
The WWE can have Asuka lose and protect her in a match like this -- it's not a one on one loss -- and it's the exact sort of thing they tend to do.
IMO, depending on their placement on the card, whoever wins Alexa vs Charlotte will determine who win's the 5 v 5, and if the 5 v 5 takes place first, that will also determine who win's the women's singles match. I think this is going to be 50/50 split with the women.
Alexa sucker punching Charlotte in the face last night was great.
Loved the entire end segment. I thought it came across as better than the Smackdown invasion of RAW. RAW just seemed to be a cast of all stars versus a bunch of mid-carders IMO, especially without AJ and Cena there.
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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 05:38 PM)Send your email scams to.
I saw this, thought it was brilliant and hilarious.
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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 7, 2017 -> 05:48 PM)I like the facial recognition. Woke up in the middle of the night last night, picked the phone off the wireless charger, looked at it in complete darkness, and it unlocked like a charm.
Also appreciate not having the home button. Even though I like the fingerprint scanner, I often found if I was washing dishes or something and my phone rang, it might be difficult to get to my phone right away because it couldn't read wet fingers. The facial scanner eliminates that issue.
The other thing I have to hand to Apple, is that they have mastered the process of activating the new phone. Everything was transferred over seamlessly...including access to my paired devices, such as my Apple TV units, which was nice.
Go back and use your old phone, the fingerprint sensor already feels downright archaic as when it came out and you had to go back to "swipe to unlock".
I used to hate opening apps that would make me use the fingerprint sensor, now I open it them and it scans my face and bam -- authenticated into the app seamlessly.
It's one flaw is not being able to open the phone easily when its laying on my desk -- that was one of the best things about the FRONT FACING fingerprint scanner. It's the same flaw about rear facing scanners, you have to pick up the phone every time you want to do something, at least momentarily until it's unlocked.
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 7, 2017 -> 09:07 PM)Apologize
This.
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After a full weekend with the X -- this thing is awesome. Screen is simply amazing.
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 2, 2017 -> 05:51 PM)Yeah and they also just announced Rusev is on team smackdown. Sounds like no Styles there so yeah sounds like AJ could definitely win the belt Tuesday.
Oh, I so hope this happens.
Jinder has done nothing but tarnish that belt every minute he's held it. His championship run has been beyond frustrating. He highlights why RAW appears to be the superior brand.
On RAW he was a jobber, and on SD he's the world champion.
It comes across (to me) as of taking a completely mediocre major league player and putting them in A ball and then bragging about how great they are all of a sudden. That's how his title reign makes SD look, simply because there was no legit build too it. I don't even see what he offers, his matches aren't particularly good, and his mic skill is nonexistent. Unless, of course, you feel yelling and playing to 1980's heel tropes is good mic skill.
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QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 01:15 PM)I am not high on Bliss as the champ, and having her win with a slap to the face.. well, it's a slap to the face to Mickie, and the audience watching the product. Same thing with Kane beating Rollins with one chokeslam, that move has been kicked out so many times now, it's not even a believable finisher anymore.
My bigger beef with the Alexa booking is, she's a heel champion but not the strongest or the most technical wrestler. Heel champs like her should be cheating their way to wins, see Enzo. But having her beat Becky, Bailey, Sasha, and Mickie clean is just bad booking. Guess what, they all look like they're wasted in their divisions now. Also with Alexa, I dont think she needs to be the champ to be entertaining, which is the value she provides. Being entertaining and being a credible champion is two different things.
I agree, I wouldn't book her like they are -- but I don't mind her as champ. They're just not booking her character properly. But people are blaming Alexa like this is her fault. She'd be an idiot to protest this run she's on.
I think the creative team is just stretched so thin between all this TV they have to write, they're just picking a handful of characters and going all in on them.
And I believe that was supposed to be a punch to the face, not a slap, to be fair.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 10:08 PM)I'm good with never seeing another Alexa Bliss match. Braun is the best though
I love Bliss, she entertains me. Which is the point.
And yes, Braun emerging from a dumpster was just awesome. But Alexa Bliss sucks.
Whatever.
That may have been the dumbest s*** I've ever seen, other than that tag-team pumpkin match, whatever the hell that was. I'll take watching Alexa knock someone out with a lucky punch a million times over watching this cartoon they got going on with Braun flipping over ambulances, being crushed in dumpsters, and then "rising" from said dumpster 8 days later?
That was the dumbest s*** I've ever seen, yet you focus on Bliss?
Hell, you could have said, I'd be fine never watching some wierdo tag-team pumpkin match again, and you'd have been onto something, but I forgot, the IWC has turned on Bliss, so that's who you have to focus your attack on now.
LOL
This is the basically the IWC run amok.
If they all agree with it like some sort of large hive mind, then it's okay, but if they don't, it sucks, and wrestling sucks, and the WWE sucks, and but -- but -- Kenny Omega!!!
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WWE releases Emma, Darren Young and Summer Rae.
Odd.
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QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Oct 24, 2017 -> 02:07 PM)Sorry guys that I like storyline consistency and will not settle for less. I suggest you guys do as well, to gain a better product.
In other words, you’ve either never watched wrestling ... or, well, there is no or.
If you like “storyline consistency”, you’re delusional if you think you’ve EVER seen it in wrestling, because you haven’t. So yes, and to steal from the Hart family, you have, are, and always will settle for less.
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QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 24, 2017 -> 09:16 AM)Did you quote your own rant from another forum?
The brand invasion angle has been done many times before, face and heels fights against the other brand all the same.
Also obviously this is done to help boost ratings. Tune in tonight to see Shane o'Mac to heighten up his security against Raw invasion, but Raw still finds a way to invade and destroy the blue brand to close the show.
That guy just needs to quit watching wrestling. Seriously.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 04:34 PM)I mean, Nakamura is literally violence and Styles is the most over thing on the roster right now probably so I don't think that's a fair point at all. There's a variety of reasons people don't like the product right now and I think a lot of the reasons are valid. I certainly don't love it at the moment but I find my reasons to enjoy it because I still love pro wrestling in basically every form. The Shield and KO/Sami stuff are perfect examples. I don't think how they got here makes any sense and is completely stupid but whatever, I'm happy they got there.
As for The BC stuff, I'm sure this little battle between them and the E isn't going away anytime soon. Reigns fired off shots at them last week so Cody hit him back and honestly both ways that's fine. The Bucks and Cody and Omega for that matter can fight this fight with them because they don't need the E. The Bucks especially are pretty much marketing geniuses when it comes to their own brand and they know what they're doing with this kind of stuff.
Made an edit to what I was saying because I can see you were misconstruing my point.
The violence of Nakamura isn't what they want. That's the NJPW style, which equates to say a few things and then go out there and wrestle, because the wrestling is more important than anything you can say. That's simply not true for American audiences who were basically bred to have short attention spans. Look at Netflix for example -- release an entire season all at once because nobody wants to wait for anything. These casual audiences don't want to sit through 50 minute iron man matches.
You bring up AJ, but he's the exact sort of wrestler mainstream American audiences want...which is violence backed by a character/drama they can understand and sink their teeth into.
They're not accepting Naka because they can't understand him, so therefore it's hard to get behind him. The smarks start chants for him, and the casual glom onto them, but in the end, they really don't care about Nakamura. They're there to have fun, so they'll chant anything just to be a part of it...but in the end, he's just a bizarre guy that shows up and wrestles -- why he's wrestling, who the f*** knows, since they never bothered to tell that story, and even if they tried, live audiences wouldn't understand him.
I can relate to AJ Styles.
I can't relate to Nakamura.
And neither can the mainstream audience.
That's why, in the past, they used managers ... for people like Nakamura.
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QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 02:09 PM)So there's some interesting developments occurring between WWE and the bullet club. I'm not too familiar with everything that has happened in the past months, but it is the most interesting thing happening in the wrestling world right now.
Apparently, last night at ROH's PPV, Cody Rhodes disses Reigns hard to the live audience and they had the WWE writer that got fired in attendance and took a picture with him to spoof WWE.
Neville recently walking out (Assumed to be due to how poor the product is) is another striker to WWE.
Hopefully this sets forth a stronger movement away from Vince's WWE product which I have critiqued so heavily in the past few years.
I think there is a two-way disconnect of what the casual/mainstream audience actually wants...and this is the audience that ultimately equates to ratings/money. You pretty much hit every talking point in regard to this and are a true IWC member.
Let me add I don't mean this to sound insulating...it's what you love, and that's fine. You're free to have this opinion. But it is a minority opinion. This is my opinion, which could also be completely off base, but ... I think it's more realistic than the IWC would like to admit.
There are a few arguments in play here, and ultimately the IWC recommends the same ill conceived solution.
1) The current product sucks, it's predictable, it's rated PG, Vince McMahon is out of touch, etc.
2) Bringing in more indy talent like Nakamura, Omega, etc., and leveraging the strongstyle/indy/Japanese style of chain wrestling will fix it.
While I do believe there are issues with the product today, I think it lies more in the fact it's rated PG than anything else. Wrestling in and of itself is a simulation of violence, and violence is inherently NOT rated PG. Therefore, it's like fighting an uphill battle against standards and practices in an era where everyone's offended by everything, and the base intention of the product is MEANT to offend, so the hero can step up and quash the offenders through a dazzling display of violence.
I believe the casual audience -- the money/ratings -- will and are rejecting the likes of Nakamura and the NJPW style. They don't want 45 minute spot fests and chain wrestling. The audience that wants this already watches the likes of NJPW and NXT, as well as the WWE, just to complain about it ... but they watch anyway.
They're also about 5% of the wrestling audience, and are an afterthought in the grand scheme of things.
The casual audience wants violence, they want blood, and they want drama.
I'm not saying the WWE needs to trend back toward the Attitude Era -- but it definitely needs to move toward a more PG-13 product where the violence isn't so polished and clean. But the casual audience doesn't care about a 50 minute Omega vs Okada match ... I've been watching wrestling for 30 years and I thought those matches were 30 minutes too long and unnecessary.
Bottom line is, 2 above is NOT the solution to sinking ratings.
More non PG drama backed by more non PG violence is.
And it's really that simple.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 16, 2017 -> 04:02 PM)I'll spare everyone my thought on the Bullet Club again. Not gonna shove it down people's throats. Omega is great. Others, meh.
I don't get why everyone liked Cody's diss so much when John Cena said the same thing to Reigns' face on Raw a couple of weeks ago.
I'll take you one further, I don't even like Omega.
Other stuff, I agree on.
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As for last night, I really enjoyed the show overall, but the Brock vs Strowman match was the worst match on the card and a total letdown.
What's funny, the woman's match should have been a total clusterf***, but damn if they didn't all find a way to make that interesting and fun. The woman's match practically stole the show for me. It's right up there with the tag-match in terms of building excitement and showing a few spots that actually had some impact.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 25, 2017 -> 09:24 AM)I won't disagree with the constant kick out of everything. It does get old.
As great as the tag match was, Dean kicking out after Cesaro powerbombed Seth on him from the top rope, then Sheamus getting pinned after a simple DDT was kinda meh.
Did Brock and Braun ever leave the ring? After that build up and what happened at SummerSlam, them not doing a table or guardrail spot, seemed to hinder the match.
What's funny about these false finishes and finisher kickouts are how often they seem to happen, yet very specific people are massively protected.
Randy Orton aside, two other examples of this are Dean Ambrose and Alexa's DDT's -- nobody f***ing kicks out of them. They even went out of their way to show Nia Jax avoiding taking her DDT to protect it.
They need to go back to that.
It's impossible to get a move over if everyone kicks out of it constantly, and it removes a very important aspect of storytelling from the match. Using the above example, Alexa is small and cunning, thus she should always be trying to hit that finish and her opponents should be actively trying to avoid it, this sells the match. If everyone can kick out of it, you can't tell that story in the ring, and it detracts from the action because it just throws it in the audiences face these are choreographed spot fests, and until all spots are hit, the match won't end. In a real wrestling match, if you had a move that would end it, your goal would be trying to hit that f***ing move. Period.
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Ever since the brand reshuffle, Smackdown has lost it's luster with me -- it went from the main show I'd watch and care about to an afterthought. The only things left on SD I care about are AJ and KO, and for the most part, they're being wasted in mid-card feuds while someone like Jinder sits atop the brand...
...annnnnnnnd that's why RAW is now the main show I watch.
Practically everything on RAW is superior to SD.
And as much as people b**** about the Women's division, I actually like the RAW women's division (of course, Bliss is there, so I'm obviously biased), but just looking at it objectively, I think it's better, and with Asuka coming in, it can't get worse.
I hardly watch SD anymore outside of the "you have to see this" such as the VKM vs KO segment.
Looking forward the No Mercy, not really looking forward to HIAC.
We are likely witnessing the end of the brand split here, there is really no reason to even have it at this point since they're doing nothing to differentiate the products anyway. Both look like WWE tv with different colors, and now that they have the same announcer on both, it's just -- there is no point in even pretending anymore.
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 11:05 AM)I kind of like the X, but I think I'll wait a bit. The 7 still screams and ive never had an issue.
I still have a 6S+, so I'll be getting the X.
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I'm pretty into fishing, primarily bass, but I'll go after Northern/Muskies, too. In the south, I tend to like catfishing.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 29, 2017 -> 11:42 AM)I'm ok with the Sasha booking surprisingly. It's going to play a part in her gimmick which I'm sure makes her go nuts at some point and turn heel. It's different but I'm ok with it. Alexa and Nia is going to be a s*** show in the ring but it should be a fun feud.
And Cena is pretty much going to end Roman if they or he or whatever is going to try and make this like the Rock feud which is the feel they were trying to give it yesterday.
I 100% agree on both points.
IF this turns into a Sasha heel turn, I'm fully on board. She's boring as a babyface, but an AMAZING heel. If this earns her a bit of her old mean streak back, it'll work long term, which I'm okay with.
The Bayley thing was bound to happen, as the gimmick itself has a built in expiration date. She looks and dresses like a young girl who's found herself surprisingly beneath the umbrella of almost impossible success, unwittingly doing the impossible and winning against the odds. The issue with that is, after you've won the title, the gimmick is over -- she can no longer play the underdog. Not to mention the expiration date on trying to look and act like a "golly gee whiz" 20 year old girl when the actor playing the character is an almost 30 year old woman now. The character worked in NXT for two major reasons ... she was a LOT younger when she played the character in NXT, and in NXT, mic skills aren't necessary, as it's a mostly "wrestling" audience.
The underlined is something NXT fans tend to forget -- and it's why Nakamura is having a hard time getting as over on the main roster as he was in NXT (or elsewhere). The strongstyle wrestling doesn't blend well with mainstream WWE wrestling, AND the lack of mic skills hurts unless he can be positioned to have someone like Paul Heyman speak for him -- as a heel character. Good guys don't need sniveling little managers putting them over.
And I fear Asuka is going to run into similar issues on the main roster. Not only is Asuka on the wrong side of 35, but she can't talk. And if it's me sitting in on that booking meeting, I'd be damned if I agreed to any sort of long term streak like she saw in NXT. The business idea of burying the likes of Alexa Bliss beneath the likes of a 35 year old with limited shelf life and no mic skill is absurd in a sheer business sense. And that's what the WWE is ... a business.
Alexa is Vince and Stephanie McMahon's wet dream of a female wrestler come true. An attractive blonde that has mic skills, along with decent enough wrestling skill to get her by, all of which are almost a requirements to flourish on the RAW brand, ESPECIALLY the mic skill.
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Also, why in the hell is Becky Lynch not more presented? She is easily the 1b womens wrestler to 1a Charlotte (Although Asuka is right there, maybe topping them soon). They have her and Charlotte on the same brand and they couldn't do anything there? It's just sad. Becky is the complete babyface package with amazing in-ring work and a strong following.
I like Becky more than Charlotte, but Charlotte is up there. Becky is underrated and underutilized to a shameful degree. And I don't even consider Asuka a thing. She's boring and predictable, can't cut a promo, so other than "being an ass kicker" -- or so I've heard -- I don't know what she's about or why I'm supposed to care. As someone that never watched much NXT, and still doesn't, I just have no connection with her on the main roster. And I've yet to really see anything special in her matches that supersedes solid character or promo work that can get her to connect with me. A couple of strikes or kicks and Naomi's booty bang move and somehow getting on a boring armbar finisher that's more suited for a heel than a babyface? Not getting it. Zzzz. And her streak just makes me not care about the predictable nature of her matches.
Just my opinion.
They need to repackage Bayley, the underdog that "doesn't belong" gimmick died the second she the won the world title. Her little snark comment about beating Sasha on RAW was solid, that's the way they should write her. Happy go lucky who lobs a grenade at least once in each promo she appears in.
This past RAW was also the first time I've seen the WWE book Alexa properly in a LONG time. That's the character she should ALWAYS be; the weasel champion that makes excuses and leans on things like feminism while clearly not actually caring about feminism, just to keep her spot at the top. Also, stop making her win clean, but squeak out wins via underhanded tactics.