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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 08:13 PM) Like watching someone trudge through quicksand.... What's that?

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 08:10 PM) Hmm, what do Anderson, Tracey, and McCarthy have in common, again? Overrated prospects from within our system?

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 08:06 PM) I'm not implying anything. I'm answering a question directed towards Fathom. I could be misinterpreting his post, but I doubt it. I would have corrected you if you were wrong. I think it's safe to say that it's not wise to get in Ozzie's doghouse.

Two down, one to go.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 03:37 PM) Seeing as this thread has gone ot hell in a handbasket I thought I'd do a little vent. Mark Prior is now on his way to the rotation and Cy Young according to Comcast. Well all I saw was he was lucky to get out of the first and third and weather conditions favored the pitcher greatly. Oh well back to Pictionary. I watched some of his outing yesterday, and his fastball was being clocked at 79 mph to start the game. It took 3 pitches for the Cubs announcers to start making excuses about the radar gun, etc. The scary thing for Prior is that he's always been a high ball pitcher, and those 84 mph high fastballs go a long way.

Congrats! If it was a boy, would it have been named Greg or Walker?

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 05:40 AM) If there's a foul with under 10 it's still a foul. The players are still deciding the game at that point by drawing the foul and commiting a foul. Saying you don't want fouls under 10 is way too broad a statement. Most of these have been warranted, and a few no calls affect the game even more so. I'm not blaming the refs. Instead, I'm blaming some stupid defensive plays that are giving teams 2 shots to go ahead with only a few seconds left. It seems like it's happened at least 5 times in this tournament. All I want is one buzzer beater!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 05:28 AM) And responding to the earlier comment. I think Thad coached the pants off of Pearl in the second half. His use of Butler on Lofton, he insertion of Lighty to shut down bradshaw, and his use of Terwilliger during Tenn's small lineup min. Also subbing Oden at the right times down the stretch were timed perfect. Bruce didnt make many changes offensively when it was obvious that OSU's defense had increased pressure and used a fast small lineup. He did a good job of handling Oden, even though I was surprised he didn't have him in on defense with about 3 minutes left when Lofton hit that layup. Lighty is one of the worst outside shooters I've seen this year....yet he shot his 3 pointer with so much confidence.

Speaking of Gus, Bill Simmons has had some great comments about Gus lately. Is it safe to say that Gus is the breakout individual of this tournament? Why did James Brown have to sign with CBS?

Congrats to Ohio St. Oden made the big block, but I'm still convinced they're a better offensive team when he's out of the game. It's too bad Lofton didn't get the last shot....could have been one of the all-time "Onions". Very good games tonight, even though I'm getting annoyed with all these fouls in the last 10 secs leading to the deciding points. I want some buzzer beaters.....and GUS JOHNSON TO RETURN.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 03:08 AM) Hes had 2 touches the whole game. That's why I said Thad's getting outcoached. For as good as he is defensively, Oden has been fouling too much lately. That first call on the push on Lofton was shaky, but there's no reason for him to be making contact on that flex play at all.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 03:00 AM) The first two games he wasn't that bad, outside of that stretch against Xavier when Matta decided he wanted to go man to man and play Oden on a perimeter player. Plus what do you expect when he's matched up on a much smaller, quicker player? I can't think of too many 7-footers that can keep up with a SF type... If they go small, that's fine. However, if he has to give up some on defense, he should be dominating on the offensive end then. I like Thad a lot, but Pearl is superior to him in terms of game coaching. There's not a better in-game coach than Pearl.

Could Greg Oden be less impressive this tournament so far?

That Kobe guy is pretty good.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 09:54 PM) The more and more I think about Pods and Erstad leading off, the more I dream of having two fat guys who can't run at the top of the order, but get on base 37% of the time. Anyone who has a brain in their head knows that the entire offense is premised around hitting three run bombs, so you might as well get the guys on base first before we try hitting baseballs into the concourse. I still remember getting laughed at for suggesting we trade a starting pitcher for Adam Dunn. I can't believe some people actually think it's smart for us to be bunting in the first inning before our 3-4-5 hitters get up.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 09:42 PM) Our catchers have trouble handling non-knuckle ball pitchers and have no chance against knucklers. PB takes away the DP that would have been and run scores. Reed K's This is why Haeger shouldn't be a reliever. Too much of a walk/passed ball risk.

I look for Donovan to be the next Kentucky coach. It would be the perfect time for him to leave, with his studs leaving for the NBA after this season.

I thought Buck is pretty solid at throwing? Also, with all of the LHP in our division, Pods will be playing in about half the games within the division if he's platooning with Pablo.

No way Huggins will leave KSU after the incoming class he has.

Baseball is the only sport where I don't mind bandwagon fans, and it's for one reason: payroll.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:46 PM) You don't have to do a dnce for every move made, but when we sign Darin Erstad some came out and said the season is over. How can you support or not support a move when you dont know the results yet? Everyone thinks there a GM and have any idea how it works. I know I don't so I try and see what happens. Personally, I didn't mind the Erstad trade.....as long as he wasn't handed a starting CF spot. Many of us knew that he was the prototypical grinder, and that it spelled doom for Anderson. I'm not even close to being a member of the BA Fan Club on here, but it's a shame to see what has happened since we traded away Chris Young with regards to our CF position.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:42 PM) Its easier to take disappointment when you are pessimistic from the start. If thats your thing, thats your thing. If you're trying to say it's easier for someone like me to take a loss, then I'll have to disagree. It's fine though....as much as you probably disagree, in the end, we all still want to see the White Sox win.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) Well, that's no fun. The hot start was never gonna hold up anyways, and the pitching never did it's part in picking the team up when the offense struggled a bit. The full season of subpar pitching hurt the team way more than the periods the offense struggled, particularly since overall the offense did very well. Anybody else not gonna bother watching this year since we're doomed anyways? Our pitching was pretty damn solid over the first half of the season. It all seemed to go downhill once Buehrle bombed during that Sunday game vs the Cubs. One of the main reasons I got annoyed with Hawk's homerism last year was when he said the team never came together. We had like 5 or 6 hitters during the first half of the season who were absolutely on fire for a consistent period. Not many teams throughout a season can claim that. It's scary to think about how bad Buehrle, Contreras, and Jenks were during the 2nd half of last season. In my opinion, those are the 3 guys on the pitching staff that we need to be above average pitchers in order to push our talent level from 3rd or 4th in the division to 1st or 2nd. QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) Anybody else not gonna bother watching this year since we're doomed anyways? You know I like you Sleepy (tough loss BTW last night), but I get annoyed with these "questions". I don't think anyone is claiming that this team doesn't have a chance to contend. QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:33 PM) Its not worth trying to convince these guys to be positive or to unconditionally love this team. If you root for the Sox, does it mean you have to support every move they make? When the Sox make a move that us "pessimists" like, we're the first ones on here saying it's a good move, etc.

QUOTE(kane0730 @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:24 PM) No thanks to Brady Clark. I think they should just wait until the trading deadline and make a play for someone like Andruw Jones. If we weren't going to trade prospects for the superior Soriano last year, no way we'll go after Andruw this year.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 04:15 PM) Some of the minor leaguers I've talked to sound a little disappointed about the whole situation with Brian. Just a "hunch", but I don't think a lot of the minor leaguers like Ozzie. I know there were a lot of furious people about the Tracey incident, and I've heard similiar rumblings about the Anderson situation to what you have.