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My intent was mainly to disassociate Christians with that position on homosexuality. Not all see it the way we assume, just most. I don't mean to make this a religious argument, but only religious topics are offended by fact-based arguments. My assessments of the writers of the bible are very subjective, but I hope the point that (by Earthly perception, which is what every other topic is bound by) humans wrote the Bible shines through as a worldly fact. These same humans, whether reading or writing the Bible, would not have understood a discussion of homosexuality since it didn't exist to their knowledge. My opinion is that the Bible makes no statements about homosexuality and thus the practice of marriage is not addressed to that end. So -- nothing else is under attack because there are no faith-based arguments in non-religious topics to muddy the waters when worldly facts are presented (other than politics sometimes ) My feeling is that too many hide behind their religion to support their fear of alternate sexuality. Greg or other religious folks in this thread may very well not be in this camp, but I cannot help but think that this common reading of religious text is perpetuated by those less noble than our good Soxtalk posters.

Didn't read Rush's bulls***, but we should quit saying that being a "Christian" and opposing gay marriage or homosexuality in general is wrong. There are Christians that realize that the Bible was written and assembled by a bunch of assholes that not only had their own agendas and fantasies (here's looking at you, John the Revelator) but also a bunch of assholes that had no grasp of the concept of alternate sexuality. Literally zero. I have heard accounts from people living as recently as the 1950s that WERE GAY but had no idea that those feelings were a known phenomenon or shared by others. Homosexuality being known as a clear cut preference is very new and real sexual attraction and "love" between the same sex wasn't going on around Jesus and his immediate successors. They couldn't address what they didn't know. Marriage as only being between man and woman makes sense since that was the only thing that made sense at the time. It is easy for a Christian to say that the "true" intent was that marriage was an institution of love. Or you can be like me and laugh at the history behind this major world religion and the assembly of its practices and beliefs.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 07:43 AM) That is far too pessimistic. It's a possibility but a remote one. Odds are he will be throwing again within 6 months. Any chance he has some labrum scarring or something like that? I had a doctor that wanted to go in and remove scar tissue and fraying as opposed to actually repairing the labrum. They estimated around a 3 month recovery vs 12+.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 07:28 AM) LOL WTF? Get off of the crack!!! not without ozzie. hahahahahahhaha Okay that's Greg's response. What about everyone else?

Liriano = god

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 05:28 PM) So I can tell people on Soxtalk how bad they suck if they have a facebook page? You're about to get criticized to all hell

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 02:08 PM) Have any of them said KW was still trying to work on something today? Mentioned something "complicated" regarding Gavin

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) It's not over until bucket, docsox, rock or kona say it's over! This

Quiet before the storm Come onnnnnn insiders

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 07:19 AM) Mitchell isn't anywhere close to putting up nice numbers in Triple A. So far, he's putting up a .250 BA and .650 OPS, and striking out almost 50% of the time, which is almost impossible for a non power hitter. He's clearly not ready for this league. Way too early to say that. There are a lot of 1 week samples that make Dunn look much worse

Great addition in the near term. Next year when you can only DH one of Prince, Miggy, VMart, and Soriano....that defense will be crazy bad.

Even if nothing happens, I just want to know what we were trying to do. lol

Sounds like Rip Hamilton would be a nice fit for Rose

Want more deets on potential Gavin deal for big time starter

What happened in here?

Buy a .50/serving greens supplement, .75/serving protein supplement, profit? Eat like shack does and require no supplemental micronutrients?

This is such an ss2k5 thread

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 06:55 AM) With the history the Sox have of harnessing big arms, I am optimistic for sure. Especially since it seems that he had just gotten on a roll anyway, sans one start against an amazing team that shall never be defeated.

If his old coach was using video and s***, my guess is that Coop will be a good change of pace. Coop is all about approach and a new mindset can often cure the ills of mechanics, particularly inconsistent mechanics.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:58 PM) They butt right up against the lines of discrimination and have been sued about a dozen times for it. "God never spoke to me" I believe this "Chick Fil A was His gift to the world" I also believe this

I think our bench is better.

Correct move. Hector has done much better lately, but isn't especially tough on lefties. He of course should have been starting all season, as I've said.

No talk about young players that ARE successful, especially Q who was the ultimate dumpster dive. No talk of Myers either.

I wouldn't bank on anyone's deal being restructured. It's fairly rare.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 06:55 AM) Then either you don't know anyone who is gay or you're not paying attention. You should ask a group of college baseball players if they'd like to be friends with some gay folks.