Rex Hudler

At this point, I think her family would just like closure to the point of knowing what happened, even if they never convict anyone. I can't imagine something like that happening and not having any closure whatsoever.

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) I know, but a lot of insiders are extremely confident. welcome to the world of recruiting....

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) Oh no doubt. I don't think any fan will lie about it. He normally gets to the line at will with his penetration and it just was not there last night. We will see what comes of this as the season goes on. Gordon hasn't attempted more than five FT's in a game since the Illinois game. He's averaging 5 FT's a game since the Big Ten season started and that # is skewed by two games, 10 (Illinois) and 11 (Iowa on Jan. 2). His injury has nothing to do with that part of his game dropping off.

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 06:40 PM) I'm praying for Julio Jones! not gonna happen brotha

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 21, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) Anyone watch "Jericho?" Me and the Mrs picked up the first disc of the 1st season....I love the premise. The acting leaves a little to be desired, but it's entertaining nontheless. I loved Jericho. There is a handful of us on here that watch it and talk about it. You better hurry and finish watching the 1st season because season 2 starts Feb. 12th!!

QUOTE(almagest @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) The Accord seems like a pretty good choice. I'm finding some nice ones in my price range. I was looking at a 2 door V6 Mercedes-Benz C320, which was a very nice car, but just thinking about the associated repair costs soon after purchase for a car with 56,000 miles on it makes me shudder. There's some excellent advice in this thread. Thanks everyone! Find cars with good service records. Not sure about your Benz, but I would confidently buy a Lexus or an Acura in that category. You can also buy an extended warranty to 100k if that makes you feel more at ease. And FWIW, I know a guy that has a auto repair shop. He works on 4 makes only and specializes in BMW's. Probably 80% of his repairs are BMW's. I will say this. He is as busy as he wants to be. There is never a shortage of business.

I'm a little late joining this conversation, but I thought I would throw two cents in here. 1. Buying new is not a good move financially. Period. Depreciation just eats your money. 2. Paying cash is the best option, but who can do that? Not many of us. Putting a significant portion down is however a very smart move financially. Also, my suggestion is whatever your payment is once the deal is done, plan on paying an additional $50/month (or more if you can). Think of buying a car financially this way. You buy a new car @ $20,000. You drive it off the lot and it is immediately worth $16,000 - $17,000. You have a payment of roughly $400 for the next 5 years totaling $24,000. Hopefully you already see where this is BAD math for the purchaser. Too many people realize they can't afford a car (either can't or shouldn't) and want to sell and find themselves upside down, finding they owe more than the care is actually worth. Not a good feeling, I would imagine. 3. NEVER, EVER negotiate the price of a car based on the payment you can afford. I suggest having pre-approved financing from your own source before ever starting to seriously negotiate price. ALWAYS negotiate the sale price of the vehicle without the external factors such as financing. The deal is the deal, however you pay for it is completely independent of that. 4. If you MUST buy a new car, buy on that has historically proven it will retain value at a higher rate than most cars. Think Accord here. I'm sure there are others. But if you are going to lose on depreciation, it makes sense to lose less. 5. Personally, I believe finding a 3+ year old car with 30-50k miles on it is the best move you can make financially. Choose a car with a reliable service history and consider going with a bit nicer of a car than you might buy new. You can usually find dealers that are selling those types of cars near wholesale that are selling cars recently turned in from a lease. You can purchase an extended warranty to 100k miles if you choose. That can be a whole other argument based on financial viability, but I'll leave that alone now. It really boils down to your own level of comfort with risk. I bought a new Honda Accord right out college and drove it for 11 years and 180,000+ miles. That will be the last new car I buy until I can and decide to pony up cash. In 2001 I bought a Lexus ES300, wanting a nicer car but not the higher price tag. It had 46k miles, but it checked out fine with two mechanics. Long story short, I paid the same for the Lexus that my girlfriend paid for a new Honda Accord LX. I did buy the extended warranty and negotiated it down $400 from its original price. I got a better car with nicer features for the same money I would have paid had I gone with my original strategy. My payment was originally around $360 and I paid $7,000 in the first 7 months I owned the car (think tax refund, xmas bonus, etc) and then refinanced and knocked my payment down $100+. The car is still driving like a champ now. Aside from wearables such as brakes, battery, tires, I have only had to make minor repairs. My radio did mess up and I had to have it fixed. I had an oil leak around a seal. The extended warranty picked up the tab on both and I had my timing belt and water pump changed at the time the seal was being replaced. The only other problem I had and this was at about 120k miles, was the motor to my moonroof burned up. I rarely ever used it so I have chosen not to fix it. No biggie for me. I am currently at about 130k miles, have no car payment and am driving a Lexus that no one can tell is almost 10 years old. The exterior and interior still look great! Good luck and do lots of research before you buy. Just think about what you are doing to yourself financially if you buy new.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 05:23 AM) Ya, well we never play the prettiest of basketball but this year is just gross. But this game was fun as hell, pretty much reminded me why I never want to graduate, good times. Might have been a disgusting game but it was fun as all hell to be there. And Erin Andrews is better than advertised. Jeez. So where are the pics of her? Surely you got in a shot or three? My PM works.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 24, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) ISU with another football decommit. We apparently have a policy that if you commit to us, and take a visit elsewhere, we yank your schollie offer. You talking about Leonard Johnson???

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 24, 2008 -> 05:31 PM) Michigan threatened to pull Cissoko's offer and ND was using that strategy this year as well. That's BS on Cissoko. With the coaching change and their big time need for DB's, there was no way they would even take that stance. You are simply hearing internet BS on that one. They have had other commits that have visited other places and that stance was not taken. BooBoo was just second-guessing himself and they talked him into being patient and let the process play out.

QUOTE(JuiceCruz16 @ Jan 24, 2008 -> 09:03 AM) USC plucks another superstar prospect as the #1 QB ( M. Barkley) makes it official that he will be a Trojan. Note for the casual followers: He is the #1 QB prospect for 2009 I heard about him awhile back and could not figure out why there was no mention of him on Rivals or Scout's rankings. Turns out I was looking in the wrong year!

Anyone seen much of UConn? IU hosts the Huskies Saturday. I have seen a little bit of them and came away impressed but not enough to have a real feel for them. Are they much improved? Are they a player in the Big East? How good of a win would it be for the Hoosiers if they can beat them?

QUOTE(farmteam @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 03:41 AM) I'd agree with Greasy -- the feeling on campus is that Illinois has pretty much become a rivalry game. I would expect that with the whole Gordon thing happening the past two years. But rivalries are time tested and don't come and go. That's the difference I speak of. I never said Illinois is not a big game, just not the biggest. This year, because of Eric Gordon, perhaps it is. Still only a temporary bump.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 12:04 AM) Well if it's any consolation, the IU fans on this board make me hate IU even more. I also call BS, as every IU fan now goes out of their way to throw anything in an Illini's fan's face (not that they've had much of a chance to do that in recent years whatsoever). There sure was a lot of venom at Assembly Hall last game (and the last few). Pretty sure Greasy has the pulse of the campus measured correctly. Krush I don't the first comment. Who makes you hate IU more and why? There are only four or five of us on here. What do I do to make you hate IU more? From my personal experience, I would not even think of throwing anything in an Illini fan's face until I got onto these message boards and had to listen to the Illini gaggle. Even you admit that some of the stuff thrown out here is a bunch of crap. And if you didn't think there was going to be a lot of venom after the whole Eric Gordon thing then you'd be nuts. But that doesn't make UI our biggest rival. It may temporarily make them our most hated, but I'd submit that is because of the way Illini fans reacted to the whole Gordon saga. Now I am not saying that Illini faithful should have liked it, but the high road certainly was not taken. I know full well there are idiots from all fan bases. And if there were more IU fans on here maybe the level of idiotic comments would be more even. But they aren't so I find it hard to figure how IU fans on here make you hate IU more. Should we not defend ourselves at all?

QUOTE(gbuk @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 12:04 AM) I always love elitist fans talking about how they're too good to be rivals with another team. If you would pay attention, I never said anything of the sort. I stated that Illinois is simply not one of IU's top rivals. It has nothing to do with being "too good". If you want to put words in my mouth, at least use the right ones. I've only made my point 3 or 4 times now. So either you aren't smart enough to get it or just don't pay enough attention. For now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with the latter. But I'm on the fence. How's that strike for elitist???

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 12:44 AM) What other sport does IU have besides basketball? Exactly. To Krush, gbuk, etc..... I have always had a nice and peaceful, respectful existence discussing other's teams until I started dealing with Illinois fans (Krush, you are actually an exception most all the time). In fact, I am quite confident that you will find objective posts about IU and Illinois from me frequently. I don't spout off BS about my team. Neither does greasy. Aboz used to spar with Illini fans some but I don't think he started it. Aside from that there are only a few other IU fans on here, so I find it hard to figure how "we" are so obnoxious. gbuk, don't get me started with your BS. You haven't been around this board near long enough to understand the history of what I am talking about. Go research the college basketball thread the past two years before you start making comments about IU fans on this board. I b**** about Illinois fans because they are large in number and there are very few that I perceive to be level-headed and even semi-objective on here. And every single Illinois game played there is somebody complaining about the officiating. I find that just ridiculous.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 06:17 PM) i wasn't arguing with you. I actually agree completely. 3-4 years ago, the IU game wasn't anything special. Oh yeah PS: UNC, UCLA, and TAMU lost today I know you weren't, I was just clarifying

QUOTE(SnB @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 06:09 PM) Just to get an illini opinion in here. In my 4 years here, we have lacked a concrete basketball rival. Mizzou is the only one that's really been around for a long time. Other than that, MSU and wisconsin for the past 3 years have been the only thing even close to a rivalry. But honestly, that's just because they were the 3 big teams in the big ten in 04 and 05. Ever since the eric gordon thing, the IU rivalry has leapfrogged both of them by a long shot. But that's just my personal opinion over my time on campus. I certainly agree that the Eric Gordon saga has intensified things between the two schools. That will soon pass and I believe things will go more back to normal. But the proximity of the two schools will always mean there will be heated recruiting battles and the talent will make for some great games, so the game will never become unimportant. Just not the most important. Make sense?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 05:57 PM) My apologies if I put words in your mouth -- I tried to avoid doing that. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any Illinois fans saying (or insinuating) that Indiana fans SHOULD feel UofI is their biggest rival, especially in a year where UofI is so (relatively) bad. My issues came when I thought you were insinuating that UofI/IU isn't a rivalry game at all, but your clarification makes it clear that you're just saying it's not *THE* rivalry game -- still a rivalry, just not the top one for Indiana. Thanks for the clarification -- that seems to make more sense. I guess to me there is a difference between a big rivalry and a team you really want to beat. Rivalries are tested over time and part of a team's tradition. Rivalries can change, but for the most part they do not. From time to time, Illinois, Michigan State, Ohio State and Michigan have been huge games for IU. I never insinuated they aren't important (all games are important and some more important to the fans) but they aren't season make or break type games. Illinois is a big game for IU currently. But they just aren't the biggest concern on the schedule. That is what I was trying to say. Perhaps not eloquently enough.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 05:14 PM) I'm calling BS. As an outside observer who, quite frankly, doesn't really care one way or another about the Big Ten, IU/UofI games always seem to have a little more 'juice' in the arena that night. If you're saying it's just another game to the mighty Indiana fans, I'd say you're completely oblivious. And please, Rex, stop with the 'holier than thou' fan-base bulls***. Comparing the 'intelligence' (or whatever you want to call it) is nothing more than a dick-measuring contest (if I may put it so bluntly). Indiana has a lot of idiot fans, too -- they're no different from any other state school (or otherwise) that has people who couldn't put 2-and-2 together yet act like they have a blood connection to the school. Every fan base has idiots, and you're getting quite ridiculous with the continual back-handed jabs at 'em. EDIT: I should also add that I'm not going to comment about where UofI would rank in Indiana's rivalry. Again -- speaking as an outside observer -- I'd say they're a top five rivalry for Indiana but again, I probably don't have much of a 'right' (for lack of a better word) to make that distinction. CWS you missed my point entirely. The only reason there is any holier than thou attitude on my part is because the Illini are not as high on our pecking order than they want to be or think they are. I never said anything about idiot fans or said anything that should be considered a dick measuring contest. And I didn't say it was just another game. Some games are big games, but that doesn't make them your top rival. It is what it is. Illinois is no higher than 3rd in terms of importance to IU. Like it or not it is the truth. However, as you read it here, they seem to feel we are their most important rival. Hence the imbalance. If you don't like the truth I couldn't care less. But I am not spouting any BS at all. It really is comparable to how Iowa State views Kansas. CWS, You're edit made my point.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 05:09 PM) As I said in the next post, I don't feel that they're a primary rival for the long run. And sure, this board effects the way I view Illinois. However, my friends don't post or even know what ST is, and they feel the same way I do. I agree that they're not a principal rival. It certainly does. I was rooting for Purdue today and I cannot EVER remember doing that. In the past I would have rooted for Illinois in a hurry. Unfortunately, this and another board I post on has turned me into an Illini hater which is not the norm for me.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 05:03 PM) Or not... I've got to disagree with you a bit Rex. Yes, Purdue and Kentucky are our primary rivals--always will be. However, I consider Illinois to be a huge rival in the past few years. And I know I'm not the only one to feel that way on campus, not by a long shot. Why because of the Gordon thing? Because they were good a few years ago? Because they have whiny fans and you deal with them regularly on message boards? I just don't see it being anything more than temporary. Illinois is like the little brother that just won't leave you alone. He'll put up a good fight on occasion and won't ever go away, but you still don't take him completely seriously. Over the long run, Illinois is not one of IU's principal rivalries.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 04:50 PM) Can you clarify what you're saying here? I take this as a real pot-stirring comment and, if you're saying that Indiana fans don't view Illinois as a rivalry, I'd find that laughable, although there's a decent chance I'm misreading it. You are reading it exactly right. Purdue and Kentucky are Indiana's rivalries. Michigan State at times is a bigger game than Illinois. Whether Illini fans like it or not - it is not our fault they don't have a real rivalry of their own - the Illini just aren't that important to the Hoosiers. If they want to fight for #3 status on our rivalry board and feel important about that, go right ahead. Beyond that, they are just another Big Ten team, albeit with a lound and annoying fan base.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) Lets talk about that after the Mizzou game today, rivalry games are always fun. Oh and heads, rivalries are when both teams view each others as rivals....not just how you view us as rivals see Indiana and Illinois

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 19, 2008 -> 03:22 PM) Not in the box score yet. But all I know is I come away from nearly every Big 10 game (not just Illinois) I watch thinking the refs did a poor job. No consistency with the calls they make and I hate the way the conference is officiated in general. In the first half today the refs let both teams play. Then for a short period they called any contact at all. Then all of a sudden they decide to let the game get physical again. There just is no consistency from game to game or even from minute to minute in the way they call the games. Are these same refs just as bad when they do Missouri Valley or Big 12 games? You do realize that most of these guys work multiple conferences and are just referees hired to work games. There isn't a whole lot to the "Big Ten" ref thing.