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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 02:06 PM) Remember Vazquez's last playoff start? i remember him coming out from the bullpen in fenway and giving up a walk off hit...was he the one that lost game 7 vs bos?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 02:06 PM) Who the f*** cares about our playoff rotation right now. We're not going to trade for a starting pitcher!!!! When you have nearly 50 million locked up in your rotation this year, if they're not good enough to make the playoffs, YOU DON'T DESERVE TO MAKE IT! everyone keeps saying we cant afford to add more money, well get rid of one of our over paid starters. the mets really want a starter and have been interested in vazquez for a while...

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) Alright smarty. What's your blockbuster trade that we make that shores up the staff for the stretch run? No unrealistic x-box trade fantasies either please. i dont know. im not the gm of the sox, they dont pay me. its the truth, our pitching is very bad.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 02:02 PM) I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I watch those guys, and I don't know how anyone hits them. I watch Garcia, and I wonder how he gets anyone out. the funny thing is that freddy actually looked good today. they catch that ball and who know what happens. and ortiz? he kills everyone. even when freddy looks good, he still cant win.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 02:00 PM) And there's those 5 runs I guaranteed Garcia would give up. What a f***ing joke our pitching staff has become. HEYYY but our pitching is awesome, we dont need help. lets just slugg our way into the f***in playoffs...sighs.

SIGHHHHHHHSSSSS, WHOS FAULT WAS THAT FREDDY?

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:53 PM) Uh...we're halfway done and our starters have ERAs of: Buehrle: 4.02 Garcia: 4.72 (entering today) Garland: 5.30 Vazquez: 5.15 Contreras: 3.31 The staff did overachieve last year but having two starters with an ERA on the wrong side of 5 (possibly 3 after today is done) is f***ing ridiculous for a playoff contending team. the sad thing is that were gunna win it all or die with this staff. no one is going anywhere.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:52 PM) i hope you are joking here. haha thats what im saying, verlander, who actually has a FASTball, over freddy? in a second. any of our starters for verlander, except for mark and jose. >i just HATE vazquez. jeez, i would trade him for anyone that could help

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) I still like our RF more.

f*** f*** u too beckett, i hope u lose

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:43 PM) MVP itll be interesting, to see who wins it in the al.......as long as we win it all, who cares...

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) You wouldn't trade Garcia for Verlander or Bonderman? omg, in a heart beat ,lol. speaking of overrated, josh beckett this season. everyone keeps saying oh, look at the move by the red sox, and how beckett has been great, 10 wins. his era is over 4 1/2

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) God damn it, JD sucks. Seriously, worst move of the offseason before last. Terrible! i know, cmon we could have gotten burnitz that year instead

QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:43 PM) Jermaine-f***ing-Dye. Shut up about our staff, we'll be fine. yes, lets just out slugg everyone into the playoffs...

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:42 PM) This year....in a heart beat. I watch guys like Bonderman and Verlander, who are improving as the season goes on. bonderman, verlander, robertson, they have bright futures now gar, vazquez, freddy,well.....

JD, THE STUD

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:41 PM) That has no bearing on whether or not he prioritizes winning. We did have the best rotation going into the year. would u trade it for the tigers' staff...i think i might

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:36 PM) I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard that exact same statement made last year. i believed last year. our staff was awesome. but cmon, look at out starters this year, theyve been awful. but hey, maybe they'll pitch better?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:34 PM) It isn't happening....too many personalities involved to admit this isn't the world's greatest rotation. We're living or dying this year with the 5 starters we have. im so sick of everyone talking about how GREAT our starters are, how we have the best staff in baseball and how anyone would want that sox staff and wouldnt trade it for any other. everyone is judging our staff based on the numbers they put up last year. apparently they havent taken a look at there era's this year. well, atleast ppl know freddy wants to win.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) We shouldn't be waiting that long, unless we're not planning to win a championship this season. theres no way we win a championship with this team-no way

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) here comes the meltdown yup, and it isnt just freddy, same with vazquez, gar and even buehrle lately :rolly anderson would of had it? shoot, uribe would have too. he always wants all the pop ups. nice 3-1 ughhhhhhh wtfffffff

this inning has turned into s***ttt

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) McCarver finally with a good point. If Freddy hangs a slider his teammates should show him up. yup, sure enough, freddy gets pissed and is pitching like s*** now.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Garcia, how about not showing up your teammates? You're not pitching nearly well enough to do that. he has every right to be mad, wtf was that? its a damn pop up and no one can f***in catch it???? he just wants to win. 2-1, there u go, thats why he was mad, cuz u knew they would take advantage, instead of one run, its 2

thome k's....