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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:59 AM) Ryan's 24 lies: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/...utes?page=0%2C0 just read the first one and stopped. seriously? Obama was blaming Youtube for weeks for that terrorist attack. just that the first 'lie exposed' is so incorrect leads me to believe the other 'lies' are also suspect.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:40 AM) Non-FHA mortgage brokers and the derivatives market and ratings agencies were responsible All Obama's buddies. He even dished out billion dollar tax payer bonuses to them. They paid too many bribes to fail.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) reality tv and the moderator is a surprise. haha, that would be hilarious. but yea, they need to address these issues before they become a problem.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) So what youre saying is that the Republican party is so negligent that they didnt even vet the moderator it really is a problem in the GOP. they walk blindly into these situations where they have been completely set up. they need to be more aware. the moderator of the last debate was unacceptable and should have been replaced.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) the moderator, the altitude, global warming, and even that Obama lost on purpose to make better commercials All of which were Bush's fault

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 10:18 AM) When Obama had an uninspiring performance everyone on the left skewers him including the entire MSNBC panel. When Ryan gives an uninspiring performance everyone on the right points fingers and makes excuses. Laughable. Obama lost handily. This debate has certain polls showing a Ryan win. To me, it was a tie, and maybe Biden got the angry uneducated voter to swing to him; which could be substantial. Also, we are free to critique a moderator whom decided she was entitled to be the third debater.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 10:12 AM) interesting statistic: ryan lied more than 82 times; Raddatz lead with a damaging question for Biden; relied on right-wing framing for unemployment rate (quoting the 6% number from the February 2009 report that didn't have accurate data for how bad the collapse was in the previous months); relied on right-wing framing when she said "medicare and social security are going broke;" and the one social-issues question was framed around religion. No mention of gay rights or immigration. those statics are not accurate

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 10:15 AM) How many Biden meltdowns and faces? i would put my estimate at over 9000

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) the media narrative interesting statistic from the debate: Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times Martha Raddatz interrupted Ryan to recite Obama campaign talking points 31 times.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:12 AM) Among supposedly 'undecideds' biden crushed it: interesting. i wonder how the FOX news poll will look.

the polls coming out show a Ryan with a close win in the debate. CNN put a little pro-Democrat spin on the numbers, but that can be expected. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...an-48-biden-44/

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:44 AM) this is a mystery for the ages, yet he gets paid millions of dollars to say things he's a valued entertainer, media personality, and has a successful political commentary show. his formula is very simple, like much of FOX news; all your competitors are pro-Democrat, you are pro-Republican. No real competition for your viewers.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:37 AM) the debate is 100 seconds: that video was edited by Martha Raddatz. I just don't think it can be viewed as non-partisan.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) The second-best part was the sweet, sweet tears of sadness from the Fox commentators afterwards. Hannity still couldn't let it go that Obama attended the moderator's wedding 21 years ago. Oh, well if that's not a big deal, we can get a long time friend of Romney to moderate the final debate

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) The best part was, by far, the moderator. Aside from two very weak questions to end it and questionable framing on another two, she asked good, specific questions of both of them and actually had control of the topics. Really highlights how terrible Lehrer was last week. she was biased and considered herself a delegate of the Obama campaign. it was a bizarre and inappropriate performance on her part.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 08:24 AM) the moderator pressed Ryan of course. her long time friend Obama needs help.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 05:48 AM) The real-time fact checking of Ryan's bulls*** was entertaining. The media narrative will be a draw because only republicans are bold and assertive, democrats are rude and mean. Biden came off as rude and rage prone. Most people do not respect those qualities in a leader. Romney was assertive. No yelling, no red faced rants, no banging his fist on the table. Big difference. The news media - FOX, was desperately trying to give Biden a win in the debate narrative.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) http://www.gallup.com/poll/154838/pro-choi...record-low.aspx As you can see it fluctuates, so who knows. you would think that is the kind of thing people wouldn't be changing their mind about every 5 years. but apparently they do.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) I'm watching Sesame Street post debate coverage. enjoy it while it lasts. you know that show is gettin cut if Romney wins.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:47 PM) Ugh, the absolute worst part of campaign coverage is the spin room. So much bulls*** thrown around in that room it's almost disrespectful to the audience. everyone just goes and watches the coverage that is pro-their-candidate. So Republicans watch FOX News. Democrats watch, ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN. Splits their ratings and FOX looks like the news king.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:40 PM) Ranting and Raving on abortion and a question from a soldier would've been a bad idea that's never stopped him before. but there is probably a method to his madness. he has lasted a long time in politics and reached VP being Joe Biden.

it was weird, Biden started off ranting and raving, then ran out of gas. like he had a rage hangover.

i honestly don't know how to call this debate. it was very unusual.

it'll be interesting to see how the debate plays out with independent undecided voters.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 09:23 PM) Ryan is terrible. Hes Obama, Biden is Romney. Hes got the smooth sweet delivery and makes nonsensical ra ra points. But thats a win now, so Biden is winning. we'll see. i think he is coming off as a loud mouth buffoon whom is unfit to lead.