Bmr31

Nor did your comment. Just let it go before you start name calling again.

Yup, it means they didnt go 4-20 right?

AHh lets not get into this again. Great pitchers dont start 2-10 and i will never back off that.

I qualified. You just didnt like my answer.

You mean he hasnt left yet?

Nope, sure didnt.

Talking about snubs. Greenberg, in 1935 had 25 hrs and 103 rbi at the all star break, and DID NOT make the all star team.

Mcdowell in........

Hmm great pitchers in the league now..............Pedro, randy, Schilling, Clemens, maddux......Zito may be the next. I am sure i forgot a few, but MB doesnt even come close to qualifying.

Ahhhh common sense!! Heh, sorry I wasn't here while this thread was evolving. But reading it in its entirety does have its advantages. The words "great" and "legend" get tossed around so much nowadays that we as fans have really become jaded to their meanings. To me, someone who is "great" is among the best that EVER PLAYED. Hell, whether MB is in the top 10 of pitchers in MLB right now is very questionable to say the least. He may just be in the top 20 if you actually went through and ranked every starting pitcher. But when you expand the pool of pitchers to EVERY PITCHER WHO EVER PLAYED, MB wouldn't even be on the radar screen. He may be with time, but to say that he's "great" in his 3rd full season is just silly. I suppose it's a matter of opinion even with the way "great" is defined, but like Bmr said, opinions such as these cannot be wrong. They're merely opinions. Eh those two just go after me cuz i tell them how it is, and they dont like it. LOL whatever.

Is on espn classic right now, for those interested.

Ahhhh common sense!!

Nah no way, youre right. He skates.

I dont recall, in the history of my watching baseball sorry i suck at copying and pasting lol...but this is what i actually said

I dont care that i won or lost. I care that i was attacked, and called names, for stating an opinion. I think the fact that Mark has backed up the 2-10 start with 5 straight wins, goes a long way towards proving me wrong. However, I stick to my point. My experience tells me great pitchers dont start 2-10. I think if you re-read this theard you will see that i said IVE never seen it. Ive only been watching basball for about 23 years.

i said i hoped he was innocent? I hope every human being is innocent of crimes. Never said i hoped he was innocent because he is a great player. All criminals deserved to be jailed, no matter what their status.

And correct me if im wrong, but i apologized to you just the other night, so i think there is proof that i know how to and DO admit when im wrong.

Just a suggestion bro. Try looking in that mirror every once in awhile, instead of turning it. Youll be amazed at the results. I admit im wrong when its proven. Opinions cant be wrong. I happen to think MB is not a great pitcher, and i just so happen to have mentioned that that great pitchers dont start 2-10. As far as i know, you did not prove that to be incorrect. Even if you had, It doesnt change my OPINION that MB is not a great pitcher. All i was doing was offering my opinion, which you decided to pick apart. That is your right, but i hardly think it needed to resort to name calling and pretending youre the better person, when youre the very person who started all this crap in the first place.

LOL this was funny. Thanks for the laughs guys.

LOL!!!!!!!! yeah what a guy. Cant admit hes wrong, and turns the mirror when he realizes it, and starts calling the other person names, like a 10 year old. I'm impressed.

Last time i checked, opinions are never wrong. If youre too blind to see that, and have to resort to name calling, it says something about you, now doesnt it?

WHat if my point was wrong? So what. ITS MY OPINION and it gives you no right to call me names, and call me immature, and saying im trying to start figghts, when the only people doing those things are you and cwsox.

REX and CWSOX you two are really pathetic man. I never once(other than mentioning era) left my original statement, yet you two continue to do so, and tell ME im nitpicking. This is actually comical. Not to mention not once did i use a personal attack, yet i received several. I think if you re-read the thread, without worrying about whether you were wrong or right, you will see the truth. LOL have a good night.

LOL!!!!!!!!! make up your mind. I was sticking to my point.

Lol youre kinda immature for your age huh?