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  1. 45 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

    Actually, 2025 Robert is exactly what I expected him to be - injury prone, tons of tools but extremely inconsistent. You were one of the ones underrating Bellinger and/or overrating Robert so you should probably sit this one out.

    He WAS more valuable then.

    He isn't today.

    This isn't that hard.

  2. 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

    Funny what a year does. A year ago people were arguing with me as they contended Luis Robert was much more valuable than Cody Bellinger (much higher ceiling, younger, better production rates when healthy, etc). Now some are debating whether Luis is worth $20M while Cody is projected to earn $165M in free agency this winter.

    Not realizing that things change in a year isn't the flex you think it is.

  3. 1 hour ago, Jake said:

    I choose to evaluate this in the narrow setting of wanting to see the White Sox win as many games as possible as soon as possible. Strikes me as unlikely the Sox had any plan B available that would outproduce Robert next year. Having another option year gives some upside if he breaks out again. And Luis is a career White Sox who I just want good things to happen for. 

    I will be honest, the Sox are in a position where they need developmental wins more than the do in season wins.  They have a roster to fill for their next playoff team, and they need to start taking the developmental pains of playing the young guys.  Heck the Sox season turned around last season when they quit playing the clowns, and started playing the kids.

  4. 6 hours ago, Texsox said:

    You get a job offer from the White Sox and accept. Why? 

    Desperate to stay at the MLB level?

    Promotion to a position that no one else will give you? 

    You believe it can be a stepping stone to a better organization?

    It's a great organization with stability, great facilities, an owner is trying to win, lots of resources, and you just picked up for your second DUI? 

    Maybe, eventually this will stop being the place careers go to die. But I can't imagine anyone telling their agent, see if you can get me into the (white) Sox organization. 

     

     

    I mean I get everyone is down on the White Sox right now that doesn't have a vested interest in selling a story here, but the reality is that there are only 30 of each of these jobs.  There are very, very few people out there who can say no to one of them knowing that another chance will soon come.  For most of these dudes, saying no is probably the last chance they get.

    Take the job.  

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  5. 6 minutes ago, Jake said:

    Unclear why there's so much negativity on Antonacci. Producing really well at AA and now AFL. Completely unheralded and cost the White Sox no more than a 5th round selection. His ceiling might be solid MLB regular? Oh no!! Good organizations should produce guys like that. He's certainly fitting a "type" from the Getz era in terms of making great swing decisions but lacking power. I see it as a possibly-smart approach by Getz to look for players with great approaches at the plate when you're in a situation with no perfect players available. Frankly, good swing decisions might be even harder to teach than power hitting.

    Recognizing his limitations isn't "negativity" otherwise you too are being negative here.

  6. 59 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    Or just normalize his post-ASG hot streak and iron out some of the slumps. 

    He's got about 1000 ABs of being a decently below average hitter.  That IS kind of normal according to his stats.

  7. 20 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    Not so much. He's put up 1.4 bWAR in part, due to his only playing 100 games a season. His injuries are baked in, at this point. I agree that this is the player he is, now. That's why my "IF" maxes out at 2+ bWAR, not 5. 

    At that rate, he would need to play around 150 games to round up to 2.

  8. 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    I'm not saying he's "barely" overpaid. One bWAR is worth about $8-9M on the free agent market. So Robert's 1.4 bWAR is worth about $12M. If he hits and stays healthy, maybe he could clear 2 bWAR, which pays for itself, as the difference between opting in or out is $18M. 

    Getz signed a bunch of free agents. For the (roughly) $16M he paid to Houser, Alexander, Perez, Bryce Wilson, Maton, Slater, Michael A. Taylor, Tauchman, Rojas - they produced around 5 bWAR. Of those 9, Wilson, Maton and Rojas can be said to not have really worked out. 

    He has played more than 110 games once in his career.

    Over his last 956 ABs he has put up an OPS+ of 86.  

    That IF is doing some heavy lifting. 

    It is getting to be the time to start asking if playing through injuries has sapped him the way it did guys like Yoan and Eloy, and this is who Luis is now.

     

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  9. 23 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    Yes, in retrospect, the best time to trade Robert was in that off-season. 

    I'm not sure why Getz should have traded Robert, but not Yoan, Eloy, Benintendi, Vaughn and Crochet after 2023. He probably saw Robert as part of the remaining "core", to be evaluated in the first 4 months leading up to the deadline. 

    If he REALLY saw a 121 team on the horizon, he should have been selling like crazy.  The problem is most of those guys had no value because of injuries or just generally being awful.

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  10. 26 minutes ago, pettie4sox said:

    I agree this isn't my first choice.  The issue is, my career is stagnate.  I have been laid off twice in the past 5 years and working contractor jobs close to home for very little pay.  This is my real shot as jumpstarting my career and filling in viable skill gaps.  I have tried to land the jobs close to home but it's always the dreaded, "We like you, but we are going with someone with more relative experience."  If this place is good for me, my family will move, but if not, I work my few years, and hope that experience will elevate me to be more competitive back in the Chicagoland area.

    Totally understand.  Like I said, i did a daily commute to Chicago from Michigan City for most of 15 years.  It's where work  and the dollars were.  I hate to be a buzzkill, but also, wanted to be fair to you.  Best of luck man!

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    On 11/4/2025 at 12:25 AM, pettie4sox said:

    Calling any Sox-Talker to chime in.  I just recently got a job offer in Wisconsin.  To be precise, it's a suburb of Milwaukee.  This job aligns with career aspirations and will hopefully set myself up nicely in the future.  I live in Chi-burbs now with my wife and kid.  I am planning on being a commuter worker, that is travel to the area for the work week, and commute back to the Chicagoland area for the weekend/holidays, etc.  

    Has anyone every done a commuter worker arrangement before?  The company that hired me gave me a stipend for moving but I'm trying to figure out the most efficient living arrangement I should pursue.  Obviously hotels, motels, and airbnbs would be too pricey.  The cost of living is cheaper but since this is not really home, I don't know how much I should invest.  I figured starting a dialogue would help focus my foundation a bit.

    Please share whatever comes to mind!

    Thank you.

    Those ultra long commutes will eat at you over time.  I get the opportunity, but you are going to miss a lot of time at home, and that gets rough.  Being older now, I have passed up chances to work in both Chicago and NYC for a lot more money, just because I don't want to move and/or commute anymore.  Quality of life is important.

  12. 54 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    I really don't have opinions about the two hires. I've read interesting things about them. It seems that Getz isn't quite the micromanager that KW/Hahn were. This looks like Bannister/Fuller/Venable running the things they're supposed to. 

    Which is funny, because years ago under that structure, Chris Getz was out there telling everyone how much freedom he had.

  13. 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

    We're going to hear a lot about how passing the Twins for fourth place is the next indicator of progress.

    But it's far from guaranteed.

    People over-estimating the Twins then.  They are going to be awful, on top of maybe still having more selling to do.  Their farms system is deeper and better at the top, but that will take a couple of years to get to.

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  14. 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

    You're going to be hard-pressed to find that for under $10 million.  Chris Flexible types?

    I was just reading a Cardinals' offseason article and they're desperately trying to get rid of Sonny Gray's $35 million for 2026.

    That's high Tier B pricing for a starting pitcher, although he was once Tier A....

     

    (They basically added 2.8 fWAR last off season and subtracted 10.6 fWAR and still won 20 more games because of all the rookies and second year guys.)

    If the Sox were smart, they would look at taking on a chunk of that money in exchange for getting a decent prospect.

    But they won't.

  15. 18 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

    The Bears special teams needs to walk home.

    To follow up on this, the fact that ANY Bears player went closer than 10 yards to the football on the on-side attempt should be a fireable offense.  If the ball doesn't go 10 yards, the play is dead.  You cannot be in a position to be touched by the football at fewer than 10 yards out, under any circumstances, whatsoever.  It cannot happen.  Either players need to be released, or the Coach should be fired.  Maybe both.

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