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QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 01:47 AM) Thanks. I thorazinely enjoyed that. I swear I'd seen that before. I wonder if I saw it like 35 years ago or something. heh heh. . . Bickford did a ton of the clay stuff with Zappa that was released variously on Token of His Extreme, Baby Snakes, Dub Room Special, and The Amazing Mr. Bickford. He's still doing wild clay stuff in his 60s.

QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 09:20 PM) I knew I shouldn't have posted that. To my credit, the only ABBA I've listened to is the Mamma Mia soundtrack (which I don't own or have on my computer), but it's pretty catchy stuff. I do have one ABBA song on my computer (Dancing Queen ) but it rarely gets played. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go cleanse myself with some Regyptian Strut. That's better. btw, if you own the 1972 Wazoo concert album, take a listen to Variant I Processional March after Regyptian Strut. You might not have caught he evolution of that one.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 12:29 AM) Simply put, British bands absolutely trump American bands...or any band in general. They did during a finite period of time, circa 1964-1968, for sure.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 11:10 PM) Gwar got robbed. If that was on a t-shirt for sale at Cafe Pres I'd totally buy it.

Here's Frank's Inca Roads guitar solo from the same LA teevee special — accompanied by the totally original clay animation of fellow genius Bruce Bickford:

Let me also point out a sad irony for anybody who hasn't noticed: The top four spots (well-deserved) in the pantheon of rock and roll — an American invention — are all Brits!

GREAT JOB KNIGHTNI!! :notworthy Looks like 9 of my 20 picks made the cut, so I'm not complaining.

<!--quoteo(post=2051291:date=Nov 30, 2009 -> 10:02 PM:name=BigEdWalsh)--> QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 10:02 PM) <!--quotec-->Frank Zappa - Montana - Live The guitar and violin knock me out. This entire concert is unbelievable, thanks for posting that! Great striped down Apostrophe (') lineup before the Roxy lineup formed. Edit to Add: Check out this version of Montana from the next year, taped for the Token of His Extreme LA teevee special. No Jean-Luc on violin, but Napolean Murphy Brock's stage antics and Chester Thompson and Ruth Underwood on percussion make up for it. Crappy quality on the video . . . my stone-age VHS copy is only slightly better.

QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 09:48 PM) Ha, I just turned on the Mud Shark as per your lines, and what do you know? Vanilla Fudge is mentioned as telling the Mud Shark story to Don Preston. Not sure the connection to Zeppelin, but this is probably what you're getting at And duh, just re-read the Zeppelin bio and bam: So to come full circle (I think), the Mud Shark is a story about Zeppelin using a shark to pleasure a groupie, which Zappa heard about from Don Preston, who was told the story by Vanilla Fudge. I didn't know this before today, pretty funny stuff. Yeah, that's pretty much it, but versions of the alleged incident differ. Most likely the main instigator was Led Zeppelin tour manager Richard Cole. . . at least he's the only person who has willingly copped to the incident. He maintains it wasn't a shark at all, but rather a red snapper which was used to apparently pleasurable effect on a willing groupies. . . er. . . red snapper. Now that I've grown up to find myself employed in the marine science field, I'm pretty sure the "red snapper" Cole refers to is actually a Pacific rockfish (Stegastes) and not the Atlantic red snapper you see on dinner menus. Cole's version of events places John Bonham on the scene and has Vanilla Fudge's Mark Stein supposedly filming the event in glorious 8mm. The mudshark/red snapper/rockfish was probably caught by a member of the Vanilla Fudge or its crew.

Also. . . Jeff Beck is credited with some songwriting on the GTO album, but as far as I am aware he doesn't play on it. GTO Miss Christine (Christine Frka) is a good conection between FZ and Todd Rundgren, whom she was briefly romantically involved with. She's also the girl peering out from the crypt on the Hot Rats album.

QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 09:17 PM) Just from the Zeppelin bio, my first guess would be Jeff Beck, who I know was involved with Zeppelin. I'm not familiar with the Vanilla Fudge, but he's certainly been referenced in a couple of Zappa songs, including Titties 'n' Beer and Punky's Whips (His hair is so pretty, I'd like to bite his neck, I've heard a rumor he's more fluid than Jeff Beck), both of which are great songs on a great album. I also think he played with the GTOs, but I'm not completely sure about that. Also, was just reading about Terry Bozzio, and apparently he worked with Duran Duran as well. So yeah, that's another Zappa to Duran Duran link Terry, Dale, Warren, and Patrick O'Hearn are also a Zappa Alumni coup as the core members of Missing Persons! Good guesses on the Zeppelin/Fudge/FZ nexus, but incorrect. As a hint, this connection was destined to be replaced in Your Mythology by The Circular Motion. There's a motel in Seattle, Washington, called the Edgewater Inn . . .

Dang, Ni's Zeppelin bio lets the cat halfway out of the bag, but I've been holding this question in reserve. What is THE conection between Zappa, Led Zeppelin, and the Vanilla Fudge? I'm counting on Felix to come up with this one. . . unles al that ABBA music has ruined him.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 11:34 PM) New Muppet video! That's pretty awesome. Some funny Muppet inside jokes in there as well.

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) If I did the list between 1970 and 1990 The Who would have easily been #1 on my list. I can't believe then that Van Halen and Elton John were left out. Hendrix would have topped my list in high school. Of course he still ranked fairly high on my current list.

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 07:02 PM) Yeah, a friend left a greatest hits cd in my car, I started playing it and didn't stop for a week. Great vocals. Don't be an enabler.

QUOTE (Felix @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 06:22 PM) I feel dirty saying it, but ABBA is one of my guilty pleasures. I saw Mamma Mia on Broadway awhile ago for my mom's birthday and really enjoyed it, despite expecting to hate it. Didn't SoxTalk raise you better than this?

Happy Happy!

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) Roger Dean, I'm guessing. As for Jethro Tull, Aqualung was a GREAT album, but they lost me with Thick As a Brick and I thought A Passion Play was even worse. Never bought another Jethro Tull album after that clunker though somehow I own Songs From The Wood (I think I got it at a garage sale). Back to Frank Zappa, I'll never forget buying the Freak Out! album. It was, I think 1966 and back then you didn't have "underground" FM radio; all you had was AM top forty, WLS and WCFL. So I had never heard of the Mothers of Invention. Who had? But when I saw that album cover I thought it was really neat, bought it and LOVED it. Me and my friends were 16 and had just discovered that there was cool stuff that the radio didn't play. Yes, Roger Dean cover art on First Base. Re Tull, Passion Play is a flawed gem, but Thick As A Brick is their high water mark for me for sure. And I think Songs From The Wood is brilliant, so I think your garage sale find is a fine one nd you need to give it another spin. Freak Out was released a year before I was born, so my "discovery" of the album doesn't hold a candle to your contemporaneous discovery of the album at the time it came out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) Duped again old man. Eh, you think I'd be used to it by now.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 12:08 PM) Toughie. I don't really know all that much about Babe Ruth, never having owned anything by them, but I thought Janita Haan was pretty sexy. I do know that Glenn Cornick who played with Jethro Tull (when they were really good) left them and formed Wild Turkey. Guitarist Bernie Marsden played with both Babe Ruth and Wild Turkey (Cornick played in Paris with Hunt and Tony Sales too, good mostly over-looked band with Bob Welch). I've got nuthin' on any connection with Yes or the Beatles. 100% right on Glen Cornick being the Babe Ruth/Jethro Tull nexus. I'll take some exception to your implication that everything after the third Tull album was of lesser quality, but I also enjoy the bluesy incarnation with Glen and Mick Abrahms as well. The Yes connection is easy enough if you have ever seen the First Base album:

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) Any chance of that type of fun at home goes out the window once you have kids. Bizarre how the very products of one's past sexual escapades become the primary obstacle to one's future sexual escapades, yes. Crud. . . an hour goes by with no posts, and then I get trumped by a minute!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 10:02 AM) XXX is today's date in Rome. You sure it's not SSMike's game plan for the bedroom tonight?

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QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 07:50 AM) That rum recipe looks awesome. I'm going to try it out when my fiance's mother comes out in a couple weeks. Nutmeg, brown sugar and cinnamon? Sign me up. However, I don't have a crock pot. Can I just throw the ingredients into a decent sized pot, covered, and put it in the oven? You can probably just stovetop simmer it with a loose lid for 3 hours and you'l be set. It's a great holiday party drink and only contains about an ounce of rum per serving, but since it's warm you can really smell and taste the rum sweetness and alcohol overtones in the mix. I bring a batch to both my work volunteer appreciation party where it is imediately soaked up by the seniors, and also to a friend's Christmas Eve bash where it's a hit with the 20-40 year-old crowd as well.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 12:45 AM) Frank Zappa to Babe Ruth I'm clueless if you're talking Babe Ruth the Ballplayer. BUT, if you are talking Babe Ruth the 70s Brit prog rock band, I'm good. Babe Ruth covered Frank's Unce Meat instrumental anthem King Kong on their debut album. Leaving FZ for a moment, I'll throw out three more groups for Big Ed to try to connect Babe Ruth to: Jethro Tull, Yes, and the Beatles. Note, these are direct conections (not Kevin Bacons), but they are not al shared musicians or songs covered. 5 highly-coveted Flaxx Cool Points will be awarded for each correct connection.