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Video #1 - Coulter Video #2 - OReilly This is Par for the course at Fox...

These Gerneals are saying this thing can be won. With big changes...I say lets win this thing already...but make the damn changes!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 07:01 AM) If you really want to protect against being fed the same crap during the election cycle, this bill doesn't matter. If you really want to change things, get rid of private funding for races. Set it up so the government gives a base amount for an election cycle of a particular race, and type of office. After you have spent that amount, you are done. That way the race becomes about message and debate, instead of who can raise and spend the most money. Bingo....

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) because its no ones fault that it happened. no one, clinton/bush, etc imagined that this could possibly happen. but for Rice to deny that she had any intelligence or warnings about this, when she really did, is BS Yes, I think it is BS too. Doesn't your statement contradict itself? If she knew, then how could she not have imagined? IF she knew… QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 02:01 PM) So, it appears I have to correct what I said yesterday. Today the 9/11 commission is mentionning that they knew about this meeting, but they did not include any account of it in their final report. The commission has now admitted not only that they knew about it, but that they received a detailed report about it from Mr. Tenet. So this of course begs the question...if they knew about it, why was it not in the final report? (link). And that also begs the question...what else are they hiding? Hmmm... the Conspiracy thickens....and now a few words from the PNAC document.....lol

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 06:41 AM) I feel the need to point out that the two major political parties have tried to make this a Coke vs. Pepsi world. To blindly boo or cheer based on team uniforms is a grave disservice to America. The first party faithfulls to clean up their party will be in power a long time, but both are afraid. Dems have to clean up Dems and GOPs need to clean up GOPs. Well said Texsox....

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 06:40 PM) not blaming her or the administration for 9/11 Why do you lead off with this?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 07:21 AM) blah blah "This is a timeline" blah blah If there were a "timeline" NOT supporting your stance, you would never have posted it. Give it a rest. It's bulls***. Well, I can tell by your responce where you stand. You hold NO one accountable (and you probably didn't watch it either). If there were a timeline that was counter to this, it would not be nesessary to post as the media has already done its job, as they have not in this case. This only puts together the reports "you know"... "connects the dots" as no MSM outlet has done. What you should be asking is WHY? That is the job of the media, to inform the public no matter which way it swings. BTW...I am an Independant. I hold all parties accountable. Not Just the Republicans. That is why I think we need to stop this stupid 2 party system we have. All that happens is the power switches with no improvements for the people. Everything stays status quo. Also, did you know Congress is Proposing an amendment to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution. The official title of the bill is "Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution". That is by Both parties. It is outrageous what is happening to our Constitution these last 5 years.

http://vestigialconscience.com/iraq092506_dems2.rm Three retired U.S. Army Officers address a congressional committee on the war in Iraq in starkly harsh words Monday. "I believe that Secretary Rumsfeld and others in the administration did not tell the American people the truth for fear of losing support for the war in Iraq," retired Maj. Gen. John R. S. Batiste told a forum conducted by Senate Democrats. A second military leader, also a retired two-star general, Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, assessed Rumsfeld as "incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically." A third officer, retired Col. Paul X. Hammes, joined Batiste and Eaton in testimony before the Democratic Policy Committee of the U.S. Senate. Looks like everything about Iraq is FUBAR

There is a bill right now making its way through House committees to be judged on whether or not it should go to the floor of the entire House of Representatives..... The official title of the bill is "Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution" . Here is the 22nd Amendment in its entirety: Amendment XXII - Presidential Term Limits. Ratified 2/27/1951. History 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress. This bill was introduced to the House committees February 17, 2005... The last action performed on the bill was April 4, 2005 when it was referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution. Our elected officials are changing the very document that is the law of the land, which protects us while at the same time limiting them! Call your representatives Here on H.J. Resolution 24... If they support the bill, they are not keeping their sworn pledge to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 06:29 PM) 20 mins into this video, I can say its a very good watch. You seem to be the only one...as all the others are talking about Conspiracy...this is a timeline...all main stream media. Some people do not want to be informed..oh well

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 07:39 AM) All theories to the contrary have been soundly refuted. Theories is not the issue, the issue is the unanswered questions. When you have so many Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Critics of 9/11 Commission Report. Something is wrong.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 01:19 PM) There IS NO 9-11 CONSPIRACY!!!! THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T DYNAMITE THE TWIN TOWERS THE PENTAGON WAS HIT BY A PLANE NOT A MISSILE THE AIR FORCE DID NOT TAKE DOWN FLIGHT 93 That is all. Why is it so hard for some people to accept these facts? I do not see where either you or the post above you addressed my post. It is evident that neither of you watched the movie in the post. It is a strict timeline of what was said, when it was said and evidence of knowledge to refute the administrations denial of said knowledge.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 12:48 AM) I don't know, watch the debate between the loose change kinds and the popular mechanics debunkers and it seems to me that the kids are smart but really just snots. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9...mp;hl=undefined I think that was frustration from PM quickly descended into name-calling and innuendo that was meant to character assassinate rather than debate facts. Words like "holocaust deniers," "JFK conspiricists," were used to charge the producers of Loose Change with the old tin foil hat smear. However, that is not the debate I want to see. I want to see this one http://www.teamliberty.net/, but so far there is only 1 taker for the Government position. Makes you wonder if their position is so solid, why they do not put this to an end already. Also, I found this interview of Davin Coburn, Popular Mechanics editor and researcher to be far more interesting.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 03:57 PM) Is this another idiotic conspiracy theory? No, it is a timeline only

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 12:57 PM) I will never buy that it was a full government conspiracy, however I also will never buy that we had no idea it was coming, and it's still inexcuseable that the "greatest country ever" could let something that catastrophic happen on it's own soil. This film put much of what happened into persective for me...sorta flatten out my tin hat...lol...it breaks it down into what you describe whitesoxfan101.