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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 08:21 AM) Iirc it sucks by Republican design, they boobytrapped it to get to this point where they theoretically could pass something better. But they didn't Not taking the Medicaid expansion (which was only an option after Roberts rewrote the bill in the first SC case) and then intentionally knee-capping the implementation in deep red states is a big part of the problems with the ACA. With the current administration now deliberately undermining the system by removing all support and awareness for the exchanges and threatening to defund them, it's only going to get worse. We'll see how well the political strategy of "intentionally harming millions of Americans and telling them that you're doing it but trying to blame the other guys for it" actually works out.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 08:20 AM) You know exactly what crow. Liberals always gotta be pissed about something. Why not celebrate a win for 30 seconds, lord. I can be happy that this bill failed (I am!) without giving McCain undue credit.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 12:33 AM) You can all eat crow. Thank you Senator John McCain. What crow? All McCain did was reverse his earlier terrible vote while needlessly putting millions at risk. If their attempts at arm-twisting on Murkowski had been successful, this second vote of McCain's wouldn't have mattered. I mean, I'll take the media fellatio party McCain's going to get out of this if it means the bill is dead, but he only deserves a sliver a credit for doing the right thing for once in his life. The 48 democrats, including one who flew in from Hawaii with stage 4 cancer, who never waivered and considered voting for such a disastrous bill in the first place deserve more credit than The Maverick™

16 million more uninsured, 20% higher premiums both next year

Paul McLeod ✔ @pdmcleod Lindsey Graham: Paul Ryan assured us "under no circumstances they believe skinny repeal is good policy or good politics." 8:34 PM - 27 Jul 2017 And they'll pass it. The GOP, everyone.

McCain, Graham, Cassidy and Johnson are having a conference demanding that the House assure them that they won't pass the bill these Senators are going to be passing later today/early tomorrow because it's a terrible bill that will damage the whole health care market. Did no one point out to these morons that they could talk to the House ahead of time and they don't need to rush into this absurd situation?

This dope started laying into Preibus yesterday and called for an FBI investigation into the "illegal leak" of his financial disclosure form, which is a publicly available document.

ha, came here to post that: This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. Mini Trump is on a tear, but I think he's going to burn out pretty quickly since he's stealing the limelight from Trump himself He's 100% the 80's Guy from Futurama

To be fair, it's his job to do that and there really aren't any checks on the President's authority to launch a nuclear strike. People who are in the "launch nuclear weapons" chain of command down to the guys that turn the keys go through evaluations to ensure that they won't question those orders and won't back down when ordered to take the steps to end hundreds of thousands or millions of lives in an instant. Which is why it's totally cool we have an unhinged toddler running things.

imagine spending 6 years crying "pelosi said we have to pass the bill so you can read it" and then having to tell people that they have to pass the bill so you can write it

Sen. Johnson: GOP pledge to repeal/replace Obamacare was an 'over-promise'

it's pretty fun living in a rapidly failing state that can't govern itself fake edit: for clarity I'm referring to the US here not Illinois!

McConnell could always dump the parliamentarian or move to get rid of the filibuster. The GOP Senate is full steam ahead on passing a bill they don't actually want to become law.

There's some parts of the article that directly touch on what I do for a living that make me pretty worried about the security of our critical infrastructure under this administration. Now I'm curious to see how badly they're messing things up at the NRC. At least they're fee-funded, so they can't gut their budget directly. e: as if on cue, the DoE official account tweeted out this story: In the fight between Rick Perry and climate scientists — He’s winning

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 01:20 PM) Since the election, I have waffled between whether I prefer Trump or Pence as POTUS. I consider Pence to be extremely dangerous in basically any area of social policy, but with the governing experience to actually get stuff done. But then I read articles like this - and I have to imagine that a Pence led administration wouldn't have let the Department of Energy get to where that article depicts it. This stuff shouldn't be partisan. The Department of Energy's role internationally in training inspectors, and finding loose plutonium and uranium, shouldn't be controversial. This is pretty terrifying... Possibly, but consider that this is all happening under the watch of a longtime GOP politician, former Governor and one-time Presidential candidate Rick Perry. It's a problem with a political party that ideologically does not believe in the importance of what the government does and does not care to understand it. Things weren't quite as chaotic under W, but there was still plenty of institutional rot. Trump's budget that substantially defunds DoE (among many other departments) was written by Mulvaney and other regular GOP politicians, staffers and operatives. Reagan's administration had numerous deeply incompetent and unqualified people heading agencies and was rife with scandals and crimes. It shouldn't be partisan in a sane country, but one of the two major parties in the US fundamentally does not believe that the government can, should or needs to do important work. for example, from the article: There exists an entire industry on the right wing that churns out this sort of ideology, and by and large that's all the modern GOP listens to.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) But atleast Killary is not president guys... /g The amount of programs they're dismantling or letting rot through neglect related to foreign and domestic nuclear weapons and threats is extremely alarming. Crippling our national research and development of energy technologies is less of an immediate that compared to that, but that's also going to do lasting damage to our economy as we get left behind out of malice and stupidity.

The entire government, especially State, is being "run" in a similar manner. It's going to take a long, long time to recover from the damage this administration does to the country.

Department of Energy, aka our nuclear arsenal, is being gutted by the Trump administration and Perry is essentially a useless and clueless figurehead doing nothing with the department. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/dep...s-michael-lewis This article is super long and I'm only excerpting from the first third, but this is extremely alarming.

I don't understand how the whole conference process works, but the parliamentarian just Byrd'd out Essential Health Benefits repeal. There are a decent number of provisions in the BCRA bill that now require 60 votes unless McConnell decides to blow up the parliamentarian or the legislative filibuster.

Remember when we used to be able laugh at NK propaganda about Dear Leader's miraculous achievements? https://twitter.com/MattNegrin/status/890584702612119552 Donald Trump sinks 3 30 ft putts and throws tight spirals through tires!

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) So basically the best case scenario we can hope for is that a bunch of people lose their employer funded health insurance and then go buy it through individual market and stabilize the market. That's like a 1 in 10000 scenario. But I don't even think that'll work because you still get the death spiral from healthy, younger people not buying insurance until they need it. If those people leaving employer plans don't currently have illnesses, many won't elect to get individual coverage in a market with surging premiums.

A moderate speaks: By God, won’t someone else take a stand?