StrangeSox

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) Being religious in mass media is nearly unheard of these days. Yeah, most Americans might identify themselves as being religious or believers, but the portrayal of our society, and the acceptance of that in our society, is not comparable to those numbers. This simply isn't true.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) People being vehement (or straight up angry) about someone believing in something they don't believe. Would you agree that those are pretty silly things to believe in?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:41 PM) I've never met a sane/rational person that believes strongly in their beliefs that doesn't recognize that it is their belief, that spirituality at the end of the day is an individual thing, and that it is simply that - a belief that cannot be proven like a scientific problem. I get on the science community for stating theories of how something happened as concrete fact. SS likes to remind me that it's understood, if not clearly stated, that it's still a theory. I think religion operates the same way. Religion and science do not operate in the same way.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/07/fox-...ing-women-vote/ QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) But you said treating them like "animals." That is pretty harsh to me. If you stand by that wording, I stand by my responses.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) Exhibit A. Of what?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) Why? I am actually a conservative Christian and pretty good person IMO. It implies that, absent an afterlife to punish or reward you, that is how you would act. I don't cheat on my wife because I love her. When you ask your question, it may lead someone to believe that the reason you don't cheat is out of fear of spiritual atonement and not your own moral convictions.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) But you said treating them like "animals." That is pretty harsh to me. If you stand by that wording, I stand by my responses. Sub-human or less-than-equal to men.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Maybe your religion says to treat women equally, but the faith they have known since birth tells them differently. Who are you to say that yours is right and theirs is wrong? They would probably call you a cretan for letting a woman make a decision for you in your life. It's the only thing they know. On my phone so I can't easily find it, but I posted a thread here a couple of weeks ago with an article about the misogyny rampant in middle east cultures. The same sort of misogyny can be found in fundamentalist christianity, judaism and probably every other major religion. Dominance over women is a cross-cultural thing. It is embedded in religions because their early practitioners held these beliefs, but I wouldn't necessarily blame religion itself for it any more than I would for slavery. People will point to it to justify their beliefs no matter what they are.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:18 PM) Perhaps it's both extremes, but I tend to feel that religious people get attacked much more as being morons that haven't accepted we live in a modern world full of the almighty science. There are a hell of a lot more religious people in this country than atheists. Atheists are still widely distrusted.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) Preface - i'm not all that religious myself, though I do believe in the Christian God and, generally, the teachings of the Christian faith. I just don't get why people who are not religious have to be so vehement about it, to the point of almost being angry. If someone wants to believe, let them believe. It's like you think that if anyone is talking to you about their beliefs they're preaching to you and you have to be all strong and defiant about not believing it, otherwise you'll be viewed as weak-minded. New Atheist assholes are the worst. See the ndt video I linked earlier.

Now that there is one candidate, fundraising should pick up.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) President endorses gay marriage in interview with ABC. F***ing A. about f***ing time.

government!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2012 -> 08:38 AM) The military's role in the world is a huge issue for Libertarians. That one is the biggest difference between myself and the Libertarians. Socially and Economically I fit their views more than anyone else. It is, but push-comes-to-shove, they are much more likely to vote R before they vote D. Ron and Rand Paul are a good example since they run as Republicans and caucus with Republicans but take a libertarian foreign policy view. I believe the Libertarian Party also supported both the Afghan and Iraq wars, though I know many libertarians don't associate with the party. Libertarians have been pretty divided over that issue: pro-sell-yourself-into-slavery Walter Block takes Randy Barnett (leading force against PPACA) to task here.

Yup http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/09...y-with-victory/

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 8, 2012 -> 09:27 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/north-c...-011158194.html Denying people equal rights is one of those times where Im in favor of the big govt stepping in and putting people in their place. Its shameful that a so called civilized society does this. Can't really add to what you said.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 4, 2012 -> 01:06 PM) DePauw has a poll out showing the Lugar race turning into a 10 point deficit for the Senator. Lugar sounds like he's desperately begging for help. I seriously don't want to believe you guys will get rid of Senator Lugar. Lugar lost.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2012 -> 08:23 AM) Economically, yes. Socially and militarily, no. Libertarians in the US generally care much more about economic factors than anything else, at least when it comes to voting.

Dog, lizard, other hoofed animals besides cows and goats.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 8, 2012 -> 05:32 PM) How do you account for the fact so many intelligent people in the world believe the NT happened and base their lives around it? Islam is the light.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 8, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Old Testament? Some of it may have happened, but likely most of it is not real. New Testament, none of it is real, none of it happened. The Bible Unearthed was an interesting pop-archeology book by a couple of ancient middle east scholars. They examined the history behind the historical OT texts and really got into the history of the Jewish peoples. It gave me a bigger appreciation for the cultural aspects.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 8, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) That article is misleading and a year old. I wouldn't say it's misleading. It is based on last year's data. Yeah, aside from rare exceptions, that's true. A lot of schools have student fees that go to athletic departments. My link's numbers don't include student fees and government support, so maybe that's the difference. I can't imagine that we went from 14 self-sustaining programs in 2009 to 22 in 2010 to all of the Big 10 plus most of the ACC and Big 12 and more to come in 2011. There has to some difference in the data.

I don't need a punishment/reward system to be a decent human being.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 8, 2012 -> 04:28 PM) I think this, then I remember that I had class with a SG, was his lab partner, and the teacher told me he shouldn't have passed (mainly because he didn't show up once a week, which was half the grade) and that I pay out the ass. Give them the option of playing in the D-League for a year, or college for two. Seems fair to me. Right, so why bother with him taking up those classroom resources? For the superstar athletes most likely to make the jump straight to the NBA, college isn't about an education. Very few athletic departments are self-sustaining and cost the school (read: students) money. But it generates a ton of money for the AD's and coaches!

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 8, 2012 -> 04:38 PM) And hilariously there is a conflict of interest when it comes to the current players representing future players. So I can bar entry into my profession for a few years and protect my job, sign me up! Lawyers do this too, if there are to many lawyers, increase the rate applicants who fail the bar, that way we make sure we keep our jobs. Any group like that, ABA, AMA, Professional Engineer licensing, has guild-like protectionist aspects.