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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 10:30 PM) He tossed the helmet right before he jumped into the mob at home plate when Pudge was trying to yell at him. well, duh. pudge is the enemy. he's supposed to annoy you when he does stuff that, if he were on your team, you'd find endearing. i enjoyed the home run run. if it had been against my team, i'd have found it beyond offensive. :7)

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 05:14 PM) Yeah, if we go 7-3 or 8-2 against the Tigers, we'd have an actual shot. I think anything less than a sweep against them next weekend is a big shot to our division hopes (even though 2 of 3 helps us big time in the WC against a team as good as they are). tigers have gone 14-1-1 in their last 16 series. it's possible they'll blow the central, but highly unlikely. plus, that would kill the season for the lions. we all know that that's not going to happen. :7)

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) Ha, and monkeys will fly out of my butt. I will believe it when I see it. you and me both, pally. :7)

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:56 AM) As this whole conversation started last night, the Tigers better get a ring out of this. It's a massive choke, if they don't. You can't color it any other way. I know they haven't been in the playoffs since 1987, but you can't only hang your hat on a good regular season when you're playing this way. there's only one guarantee coming out of detroit this year: the lions will lead the nfl in wins. hear me out... red wings: president's cup, first round loss pistons: best regular season record, punked by miami (only because labron wasn't ready to go the next step) tigers: best in mlb, guaranteed to lose to sox/yankees/twinkees in al finals lions: guaranteed best in nfl, guaranteed lose in first round see? that's the magic in detroit this year. millen doesn't deserve such karma. :7)

QUOTE(danman31 @ Aug 5, 2006 -> 09:46 PM) Pudge please go do some more steroids. Are the Tigers still claiming to be a real team? No real team wins from behind at will. The question is how many Tiger fans had to sell their souls for this season to happen? only one. and it was cheap. i just hope i paid enough. $5 seems like such a small amount these days. :7) speaking of steroids, i wonder if zoom has ever had to take a test. i love the guy but he went from a mid-80s hurler when he was drafted a couple of years ago to 103 today. if i were ml baseball, i'd be checking him out every day just to be sure. hell, if i were dombrowski, ... state of the tigers pitching: bonderman should be fine the rest of the way. he's had a couple of weak games plus the meltdown last week, but in the meltdown game, he was absolutely dominant until unforgiveable defense got to his head at the metrodome. look for more of the dominance these next couple of months. 3.5 era the rest of the way. verlander will start skipping turns. dombrowski seems ready to trade a cy young award in favor of protecting a young, live arm. good for dd. although it's only a sample of one, verlander was awesome on what, 10 days' rest?, after the asb. he's good for another half dozen starts and could still get to 20 wins. 2.5 era the rest of the way. robertson will be fine. he's streaky but showed in his last outing (in which zumaya allowed both inherited baserunners to score, losing the game for nate) that his arm is in good shape. 3.5 era the rest of the way. rogers is a wild card. he probably needs more rest than verlander at this point. it won't happen since that's not leyland's style. will he win another game the rest of the way? only if he skips starts, imho. 6.0 era the rest of the way. miner is a placeholder. his job has been to get in five innings while keeping the tigers in the game. the tigers are blessed with above average middle relief this year. i wouldn't want to build a staff around grilli, colon, walker and ledezma but they've all been pitching better than any of us could have hoped for. this has made the miner miracle possible. 5.0 era the rest of the way. maroth will be back. the question is, of course, was his start for real. maroth depends entirely on control and tight ball placement. his performance early on indicated that he's one of the rare ones to have figured it out, important since his fast ball clocks out in the high 80s. my $5 bucks says he comes back and picks up where he left off. 3.5 era once he comes back. boy, is this a stupid post or what? :7)

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 07:48 AM) 44-11 is the Tigers record vs losing AL teams and in interleague play. 24-22 is the Tigers record vs AL teams with winning records. For how bad the Sox have played recently, they are still 30-24 vs AL teams with winning records. If the Tigers don't improve vs winning teams they will be in trouble pretty quick. They have 32 out of 35 games vs winning teams from August 7th to September 13th. detroit had a 3-7 week-and-a-half in late may/early june, against teams that at the time were able to get into the tigers' heads. the season was young and the team was as surprised at its early success as the rest of the world. include the 0-3 sweep by a differently performing cws back in april and the tigers showed 3-10 against teams with winning records early on. back out that bad stretch and the tigers have been 21-12 against the best. this series against the twins is the tough test in my book. playing minnie at their place has not been easy for anyone the past few years. the rotation for that series is miner, robertson, bonderman. miner against liriano is almost a certain loss, although the tigers' record against lefties is really good. the other two could go either way. this is maturing tigers team. i don't see the yankees or red sox having anywhere near the same psychological advantage over the late 2006 tigers. feel free to bash me for playing with numbers - i certainly would, albeit quietly and to myself. :7)

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2006 -> 09:13 PM) I think you and I will get along just great. I don't care about hockey, don't have a team in college football, hate the Yanks, hate the Mets, hate the Boys, hate the Lakers. If you tell me that you hate Boston oriented teams, and you hate the Packers, than you are basically a White Sox fan that, errrrr, roots...for...uhhhhhh, the Tigers? ohmygd, b*ston's almost as bad as new york! and the packers? as bad as the viqueens (i won't say anything bad about da bears). i think there's a common theme in the midwest, eh?

two really good teams. one of them should be in the ws this year.

ouch!

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jul 18, 2006 -> 02:20 PM) their pitching is set up to be good for a long while. Add another veteran to take Rogers' place and Detroit will be a force. I am a bit surprised there's so much optimism regarding Maroth's return. It was elbow surgery, after all. all they did was clean out some bone chips. i don't even know if there were any burrs to scrape. really minor stuff. am i overly optimistic that he can come back strong? dunno. if he still feels the elbow, we won't see him again until the spring, i suppose. if the elbow feels good, he should be able to regain his command after some rehab work in the minors, don't you think?

QUOTE(loltrain @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) Rogers v Contreras is no contest? Uhh, Rogers and Contreras have been equally horrible the last month, if anything that's the crappiest pitching match up of the series. I find it funny that every White Sox fan thinks the Tigers are playing 100% and can't possibly do better, but even though almost everyone in your lineup is having a career year the Sox haven't "clicked yet" or "aren't playing their best ball" Both teams have been playing great, and their is no need to make excuses at this point. garland - robertson: advantage robertson vazquez - bonderman: advantage bonderman contreras - rogers: advantage contreras where's the dispute? if rogers can go six w/o giving up more than two or three, he might have a shot (profound, eh?). as i said, robertson and bonderman should both have top notch games. if jones doesn't blow any saves, the series goes to detroit. rogers is due for a good game so even with a jonesy foobar, detroit might win the series. the tigers are going through a bit of a rough period right now. their defense is dramatically worse than it was through the first 80 games. but for playing the royals, the lead would likely be stuck at one or two games. thank you buddy & co. if the defense doesn't tighten up, there's going to be a seriously anxiety producing pennant race in the central.

i am somewhat concerned (not a lot, just a little bit) about the way the tigers are playing at the moment. they were playing mediocre ball going into the break (although i did say that i'd be delighted with a 3-3 west coast swing) and have continued with fairly weak performances against the royals. ok. got that off my chest. here's how i see the second half lining up for the tigers and why i think they can actually get to 100 wins (warning: the following is pure conjecture): bonderman and robertson will continue to pitch well, winning 15 games between them and starting another three or four wins credited to the bullpen. verlander's going to get a lot of rest once maroth returns. verlander and miner will share starts. between the three pitchers, they'll win a dozen games and perhaps leave another two or three wins to the bullpen. rogers will go .500 the rest of the way out and pick up a half dozen wins. the sox will win the division and the tigers will lose to the sox in the al championship series. wait'll next year! this coming week, look for robertson and bonderman to pitch balls out - robertson because he's become incredibly competitive and bonderman because he sucked his last outing. jones may still blow one of their starts. rogers against contreras is no contest. depending on jones, detroit will take two of three against the sox.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 4, 2006 -> 05:40 AM) No need... they have a nice looking site over here... thanks. i've never seen that one before.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Polanco with an RBI double. Why not throw this guy nothing but garbage? Coming into tonight, .283/.316/.357. He doesn't walk, but he doesn't strike out either, yeah. he was a pretty good pick up for uggie, who turned out to be a clubhouse (and airline) cancer. 3-2 on a marcus thames solo shot. woo-hoo. can robertson bear down and get this thing to the zoomster?

QUOTE(tigerfan @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) Shouldn't be 2-1 at all. Robertson could not get a freakin strike call. He threw pitches that were obviously strikes, and they were called balls. Eventually this led to the bases being loaded, and then they got a 2 run single. Thanks a lot ump. that's what i like about this forum: only objective posts. :7)