iamshack

Me too.

Ok, so Badger and I, both of whom have legal training, and professional experience with negotiations, replied with very similar responses to you, within seconds of one another, regarding your logic. I understand how you think it looks. And I admit they took a risk, and it blew up in their faces. But it likely wasn’t anywhere as simple as you think it was.

Exactly right.

Ok, no offense Balta, but we are not negotiating for a used Kia here. First of all, Rick IS a professional negotiator. Are you honestly suggesting otherwise? He has negotiated hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars in FA contracts by now. Now to be fair, this thing got stale, and that was a risk they took. And it backfired. And I agree, perhaps the market was attempted to be leverage too much during January/early February.

You act like the agents don’t feed teams pure bullshit throughout the entire process.

Yeah, this was my fear as well. Eventually, parties simply get fed up with each other when they are both dug in.

Yes, by the one and only...oh, I can’t name him

Some blue check mark saying Harper to the Phils for $330, 8-10 years. Seems a bit vague.

And Fathom was telling me “watch out for SD” and I told him 20 times Manny didn’t want to play there. He was right.

Well below that

If we just limit this to what was out on twitter, it appears Hector Gomez had their basic offer back in late January. So they did try to get this done earlier. The issue is they didn’t close and eventually they left the door open for someone like the Padres, who did. We should all know that Lozano was undoubtedly throwing all sorts of nonsense at them, which they were left to try to navigate the best they could. My guess is there were some things that they had sort of successfully busted as BS, and they thought the Padres’ offer was BS as well. Unfortunately, it was not.

I honestly do not know who their preference was. It seems to have changed over time. That said, who you prefer and who may appear to be more attainable may be different things.

Point taken. At the same time, when the forum has degenerated into something where posters with a positive outlook are going to be insulted, mocked, etc., then the forum has become something it shouldn’t have, regardless of the level of disappointment in the FO at the time.

I honestly don’t know what their intentions would have been. I believe they did not anticipate the Padres offer was what it was, and I texted Fathom like 10 minutes before the deal was announced to that end. I did not spend much time posting on Soxtalk during the last several months, but I was extremely critical of their negotiation strategy in other areas in the weeks leading up to last Tuesday, and there are members of Soxtalk who can vouch for that.

Yes, I am the one that is nuts.

I hope he wasn’t. I hope it was staged, to be honest.

Our Executive Vice President literally said “I am wearing sunglasses so you don’t see how shocked I am.”

We all told you exactly what the Sox apparently thought. I’m not sure wtf you expected? The goddamned FO was in a state of utter disbelief with what happened. What don’t you understand here?

Oooh, burn

Oh, I will. But there is no sense in doing so before Harper has been signed. We are still in this.

That depends on what your expectations are/were. I never expected ‘19 to be much more than a continued development year. I really think watching Moncada/Jimenez/Anderson/Giolito/Lopez/Rodon will be fun to watch. Later in the year, we will likely see Seby and Cease make their debuts. Wouldn’t be shocked to see a significant trade or two as well. Next year is when things really begin getting interesting.

No one has any clue what the ceiling is yet. That’s the problem. Everyone wants to judge before anything has an opportunity to come to fruition. This requires patience.

It isn’t pompous, it’s just one you don’t subscribe to.

Seriously, go cheer for another team then, Dick. No one is forcing you to stick around. Go be happy. There is a much bigger spender just a few miles north.

Keep it up.