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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:54 AM) advanced stats are just another tool to understand the game. that's what makes the hatred of them so weird. I don't think that is what it is at all... A lot of it revolves around the way the two sides of the spectrum treated one another when the data guys were first coming to prominence. They were referred to as eggheads or computer nerds by the scouts and lifetime baseball men, and they referred to the scouts and baseball men as fools and ignoramuses...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:52 AM) My gut instinct told me to f*** the s*** ouf a girl who I just met without a condom. The activities are different, but the concept is the same. Going with your gut occasionally gets you in trouble and is not always right. Obviously the thought it over the course of time, going with the data will produce better results than going with your instinct. However, both will occasionally get you in trouble and neither are always right.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:41 AM) Tell that to the residents of Torotno? Where is this mythical place you speak of?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:42 AM) I would imagine the pool of interested buyers is definitely smaller. That's definitely a place I would love to lease but not buy. Yeah, the newer developments from that builder start at around $750k...I would buy one, but I can't afford it. I think she will rent it to me for $2500 a mo, which, while it's a lot for a rental, I don't really have many options right now. And it would only be for 6 months to a year, most likely.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:42 AM) Doesn't have enough shoe storage The ex works for an upscale shoe retailer Of course, all I heard about from the current gf is how my house didn't have enough closet space for all her shoes...

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:36 AM) If your current GF says no to this....jeebus. Just curious, how much would a place like that go for? She's listing it for $675k...i believe she paid $575k, cash, back when the market was pretty crappy. So it is priced pretty well, but these ultra modern homes take a little bit longer to sell.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:30 AM) Yea seriously, ex's house >>>>> living with any parents. Plus you can at least get all your stuff in one place, don't have to worry about storage, etc. Yeah, especially when you consider this is the ex's house... House

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:24 AM) Your last two sentences could have also described Ozzie Guillen. Doubtful at best. Playing the game doesn't equal knowing the game better, it's such a pointless card to play. What is it, 2-3 GMs right now actually played the game? He thinks he knows the game so well and has it all figured out, that's why he ignores all these advanced metrics. Those metrics help people understand the game better than him. He's outright refusing to learn more and gather more accurate information. And I agree with everything you said. Now if you were Brooks, how would you spin this whole thing?

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) Looking around the web on various sites and boards, everyone seems to know who Hawk is. Not related to this incident but just in general. I find it odd because I can't name very many team announcers at all. I don't find him to be an embarassment though. I like him and appreciate the attention he brings us that we otherwise usually lack. Everyone knows who he is...and everyone else rips him...I don't really care either...he is OUR Hawk!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 09:48 AM) If they continue to lose it will be an embarrassment. Well that is the brilliance of it...he already is a bit of an embarrassment...this is really nothing new...so we may as well embrace it at this point.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 08:09 AM) Hopefully that owner comes back with a decent price for you. Also, that's some pretty awesome digging on your part. Another funny story... So my house is going to close around the end of May...if we don't find something by then and close on it, we will have to either live with the gf's parents, or find something to rent. Finding something to rent will be nearly impossible with the dogs I have...so I'm basically screwed... Well, this morning I am perusing facebook, and I see my ex is listing her home...she is moving to LA, and wants to either sell or lease her home....so I ask her if she doesn't sell it right away if she would lease it to us...she said "I would lease it to you!" It's a freaking awesome house...of course, how do we all think the gf reacted to that idea? But honestly, how much do you think I want to live with her family?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 09:25 AM) It looks kinda silly when you're losing a lot, though. And if they lose, it will just go away....if we win, it will become a season-long rallying cry...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 08:48 AM) I find it embarrasing that Hawk is our announcer. He's bad at his job, and now this episode makes him look like a buffoon. But... I actually LOVE the idea of this #TWTW marketing campaign. This team and its fanbase needed a shot in the arm, and this might work. I like it, even if it was planted. Either way it works. I hope they run with it. I agree...I think it is brilliant...obviously this is all a little bit tongue and cheek, but I think it's flat out brilliant.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 07:48 AM) Ugh, so the place I really wanted apparently is under contract already. There are just a few other places I would seriously consider buying, but the one place that had it all is now unavailable. Hopefully some new places come onto the market because right now there isn't a whole lot. I feel your pain! We're at a standoff on the other house we offered on... There is a house a few blocks down from mine that is absolutely awesome...I've been stalking it through the public assessor's website for awhile...anyways, the deed had been conveyed to the trustee's office because they were delinquent in paying their property taxes, so I was waiting for it to go up for auction...but they just paid back the delinquent taxes. So I found the owner on LinkedIn and asked him if he was interested in selling. He's an investor living in NY...anyways, we are setting up a time to go walk through it and trying to get a ballpark number out of him. I'm trying to think out of the box here because there is just no inventory worth a s*** right now, not for the right price, anyways. This is how I actually found my current home...found someone to sell to me that wasn't even on the market. Maybe this will work.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 08:06 AM) The 85-86 Bulls were 22 games under .500 and made the playoffs. What did Jordan do in game 2 of that opening series? Oh yea, dropped 63 on the Celtics. I bet a lot of people regret not watching that game just because they knew the Bulls didn't have a chance in the series. Jordan was also injured that year and missed like 67 games or something...which was the reason why they were 22 games under

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 12:35 PM) I feel like the Dodgers would trade Ethier in a heartbeat, but no one would dare take on that entire contract. I'll bet the Dodgers would...(oh wait)

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 12:39 PM) Was Manti Te'o spotted at the Boston Marathon? No, just his girlfriend

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 12:26 PM) Translated: Half of team execs have their eyes on someone else and are talking up Manti to get somebody to take him, the other half have their eyes on Manti and are talking him down in hopes that nobody ahead of them takes him, and the coin I flipped just came up tails so I'm agreeing with the half that don't want him. Yeah, it bugs me when people outside of the industry are so sure they know definitively more than those inside it.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 11:23 AM) Te'o definitely looked like a pretty good football player before the Bama game and I would have loved for the Bears to draft him. A big problem for me is the girlfriend thing. If he's that gullible how is he going to gain respect from an NFL locker room? I've heard former players even talk about that aspect on ESPN. Combine that with his mediocre measurables and I no longer want the bears to touch the guy at 20. A big thing Te'o had going for him before the girlfriend story was his intangibles. Those took a huge blow. I think he'll get hazed about the girlfriend thing in training camp and all that, but if he comes in and shows that he's a good player, no one is going to care about that. I'm sure these players have some pretty hilarious dirt on eachother that the press has no clue about...and they just don't really care when it comes down to it...if you are a good player, you get respect. I was never particularly impressed with him and always thought he was overhyped...but I trust that our FO will be able to make a far better determination of just how good he is than I ever could. I also agree with ss2k...he was playing with some pretty heavy stuff on his mind in that Bama game...who knows how that may have affected him.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 09:05 AM) No, I think you missed my point. Questioning is FANTASTIC, and it is at the very core of the objectivity that sabermetrics promote. Being dismissive without questioning is the problem. People like Hawk are dismissive, and probably so are the majority of anti-data people. I have no problem with questioning and disagreeing with interpretations of data and/or the quality of data. I have a huge problem with the attitude that it's all "nerd garbage" and that it's wrong because it you (the proverbial you) don't consider it interesting to understand. Agreed.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 08:18 AM) I think BABIP for hitters is a pretty useless stat (and I have a long explanation as to why, the gist of it being that it just repeats what you already know from looking at batting average) and whenever I say that I do get some pretty strong reactions to what I feel is pretty obvious but if I went on to say "sabermetrics is dumb, this tells me nothing" or something along those lines I'd expect to be called dumb. Yeah, I agree with that..people on the far end of either spectrum are both being dumb, IMHO.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 06:02 AM) I really hope the buyer is on this board. I really hope you poop your pants.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 25, 2013 -> 07:46 AM) It's ironic that those claiming that sabermetrics exude "elitism" tend to be the same people that refuse to even try to understand them because it goes against their "traditional" ways. Ignoring the possibility of progress for nothing but the sake of tradition is about as elitist as it gets. I've pissed some people off on this board regarding the subject of sabermetrics before, but when I get worked up and vitriolic it is NEVER because people disagree with a sabermetric claim or don't concern themselves with the subject -- it is when people vehemently denounce it without even attempting to understand it. That's the kind of BS attitude that fosters an "us vs. them" s***-show in the first place. This isn't people being elitist, this is people being overly defensive on both sides. There's no magic answer to most baseball questions, sabermetric or not. You can disagree all you want and I'll respect it. But your claim deserves no respect if you are making it without bothering to be informed. That is the problem with Hawk's opinions -- they are all rooted in a bias he created when someone made him feel threatened. That's the immaturity that most of the most public voices on BOTH sides of the "debate" have shown, from my observations. You find it ironic that when data is questioned by someone, that person is labeled as being dumb? Because they ask questions? I wholly admit there are people on the far end of the spectrum that are very defensive and combative. I am in an industry which is moving from a culture of not producing data because of fear of what that data might reveal, to a culture of producing as much data as possible because of the efficiencies that data might point the way to. I am one of the chief proponents in my company for driving the production of as much reliable data as possible; but that's just it, it has to be vetted and shown over some reasonable amount of time to be reliable. We should always question and test data, especially when it is produced by new methods. Having the nerve to question that data should not elicit insults or a defensive attitude...which is what I very disproportionately receive when I ask questions of sabermetric-oriented folks.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) lol, probably didn't realize they were dealing with someone with a legal background Yeah, I guess not...their agent called my agent and was singing a completely different tune now...saying he cautioned the buyer against asking for repairs, yada yada yada. So I guess we are moving forward with the sale, except we're going to close at the end of May instead of having me rent back. Whatever...works for me.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) Care to elaborate? I was hoping someone would ask Well as I said earlier, they submitted this great, clean offer on the house, which was for full-list price, and for cash. Additionally, there is a clause which allows the buyer to specify that the seller will be liable for up to "x" dollars for repairs revealed in the inspection. They put "N/A" in that clause, effectively stating I would be liable for $0 for repairs revealed in the inspection. They submitted their offer this way purposefully - so that it would be a very strong offer and increase the chances that I would accept it. Well, now that we are in contract, and they have had their inspection performed, they submit this laundry list of ticky tack repairs that they want me to have a licensed contractor take care of. They also asked me to sign this lease agreement (because one of the conditions of acceptance of the offer was that they allow me to rent back from them for 3 weeks at $500 a week) which stated that no animals were to be allowed on the premises. Well, the entire point of me renting back from them was so I had a place for my dogs to live in case it took us a bit beyond close of escrow to close on another home, and they knew this. This infuriated me. And so I told them I would not sign such a lease agreement, nor would I repair anything. They came back with this email to my listing agent: To which I replied with this: My realtor got a kick out of it and thinks they will run away...I don't really care at this point either way...I am just letting them know I am not going to deal with any bs.