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Ugh. Some terrible close out D there. Need to keep the game slow.

Should be 21. 4 pt swing and a terrible defensive effort by Noah against Irving.

God dammit Noah. 4 pt swing

Nice run!

Get Noah out of there. He's hurting them.

Why is that not reviewable?

Two missed travel calls and a basket interference so far for Irving.

The corpse of Hinrich has arrived.

I would like a Bulls victory tonight. That is all.

What a shock that boxing is a dying sport. The guy that didn't try to win still won the fight. Glad I didn't pay anything to watch that snooze fest.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 2, 2015 -> 07:49 AM) Teen who broke patrol car window faces higher bail than cop charged with murder http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/teen-faces-high...-accused-murder Probably due to priors.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) the intent was to commit a crime. period. the end result does not make more or less severe. That's not how the law works.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 1, 2015 -> 12:18 PM) The charges: Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr: Second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle, misconduct in office Sgt. Alicia D. White: Manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office Lt. Brian W. Rice: Involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment Officer William G. Porter: Involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office Officer Garrett Miller: Second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment Officer Edward M. Nero: Second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment Some terrible stuff here: http://mashable.com/2015/05/01/damning-det...om-Tw-main-link Still, I just have a really hard time believing that they'll get hit with murder, especially the second degree murder charge and the manslaughter charge. Both require intent. How are they ever going to prove that? Especially with White. All she did was fail to call for help "knowing" (per Mosbly) that Gray was unconscious and unresponsive. The involuntary manslaughter charges also don't make much sense. I'd argue if there was any killing it's the driver that caused it. Whether or not the other officers knew that he was in serious need of medical attention, and that they're failure to act lead to his death, is a little unclear. I think Goodson should be hit with involuntary manslaughter/manslaughter by vehicle if it can be shown that his driving caused Gray's injuries. Miller, Nero and Rice should be hit with the assault charges and misconduct for the way they arrested him and put him in the van. Porter and White shouldn't have been charged, based on Mosby's press conference anyway. I don't see how those cops' failure to get him medical attention is an assault. The official misconduct is probably legit. False imprisonment....surely there's some kind of immunity from criminal charges for that, right? Wouldn't every wrongful arrest result in criminal charges against the cops? Does that happen?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) On the second point, my opinion is if everything is filmed, there will be fewer lawsuits of that kind, not more. People trying to make a buck because a cop called them a bad name are going to look like fools and have their cases thrown out, and lawyers will stop taking the cases because they can't make money. It would be the exact opposite IMO. As soon as a cop looks like he's being mean, Cook County jurors would find fault. The amount of questionable/iffy excessive force claims would rise, not fall. And even for the 50 that exonerates a cop, the 1-2 that are bad will be all over the news and make the department look bad. There's very little for the PD to gain by doing that. edit: im talking metro PD's btw. Downstate, where people are less likely to find fault in government or companies because they're less jaded, maybe not. But in major cities with groups of people who have distrust of government/police departments, no way. They want a reason to nail the CPD and they'll view video/evidence in that light. Hell, they already do. We had a case a few years ago where officers knocked down a mom who was "protecting" her son while he was being arrested. The cops got a little physical, but she was all over them, and they basically knocked her down to the floor and she suffered a herniated disk and had some medical issues, all brought on by her own actions really. She/we (Plaintiff in that case) got over 2 million. The jurors couldn't wait to make them pay. We've had a few excessive force cases and the PD's settle pretty quickly because they don't want to take the risk of getting the case to a jury.

QUOTE (staxx @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) They took the BPA. Cant be mad. Much rather them do this than reach for Shelton as Emery would do. They could have kept Marshall and not needed to waste a pick on a WR. That's what a competent organization would have done.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 07:50 PM) how long will Thibs leave the starters in.. lol up 44 also worried Dunleavy could miss some time punching people in the face Taj and Noah still in even though Kidd gave up and put his bench in. If someone rolls an ankle and misses a game or is not 100% Thibs needs to be fired on the spot. What a moron.

f***ing asinine. They had an established wide receiver in Marshall with needs all over the field. So they basically paid to get rid of a guy and then replaced him with their most important pick. f***ing. Stupid.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) The solution to that hypothetical problem is for cops to stop being dicks and verbally abusive to the point where it justifies civil settlements. I'm sure in the vast majority of cases you're right, but in some areas, with some people, not so easy.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) This is what I've been wondering. If only there'd play Moore they'd be unstoppable! Shoot, he'd be a better option than Rose every once and a while. I think he can do better than 0-10 stretches with 5 turnovers or whatever it was in game 5. I'm not saying he should start, but when the team is sucking and losing, why not try something different? Moore has played well this year. He's proven he belongs on the court. What have they got to lose? Another terrible 3-4 minute stretch?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) There was an interesting case just recently, an Albuquerque officer (their department has had issues the last few years) beat a subject for literally no reason, then told his fellow officers to "go live" with their lapel cameras after and acted all nice. What made him chargeable? The probationary officer who was also there on the call gave him up to the department, gave a statement. Interesting. It's really a very small expense. Each of those simple cameras are like $20 a piece. Some cable, a computer, and a video archiving software package. For one police station that's probably $2000 total, which is nothing unless it is some super-small rural department. The cars might be different, as the cameras are cheap but I'm not sure how the archiving works, but I'd think it wouldn't cost a ton. Probably a lot less than the laptop/MCATs they have in the cars anyway. Eh, I think it'd be way more than that. I have a case now against a Chicago municipal entity and while they're big, the contract was worth millions and millions and it's ongoing. And it's a broke as s*** system that requires a ton of maintenance and doesn't work a good percentage of the time. I'm not confident at all that a public entity on a tight budget is going to buy a good system. edit: and let's be honest, the real concern here is the grey area between a cop just being a dick and a cop committing a crime or at least an action worthy of a civil suit. NO ONE likes cops. Everyone, especially in places like Cook County, LOVES to hand out money when a big corp/municipal entity is the defendant. There would be a s*** ton of lawsuits for the weakest of weak claims. You'd get all sorts of claims for emotional distress based on verbal abuse. That's a cost that also factors into this, even if in some cases the police are exonerated.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) Guy got in the van intact, got out nearly dead. I'd be shocked if they weren't charged pretty seriously. However I agree that conviction could face complications. Again, people are talking about lapel cameras, but why aren't we talking about cameras inside vehicles and facilities? I mean outside, there's an increasing chance any given incident will be filmed by someone anyway. Inside a police station or police vehicle, that's a different story. I think that's more of a need than lapel cameras, and also a lot easier to implement and keep running. Lapel cameras are tough to make work consistently, but a static camera is pretty easy. Once a subject is in controlled custory (arrest or otherwise) and is on or in police property, from that point forward there should be no place they are taken that isn't filmed (until they are released). Impose sanctions, increased scrutiny and fines on departments that are found to have facilities that aren't. Criminalize conduct of anyone employed by a law enforcement body disabling or hampering with a recording device for that purpose. This by the way would actually protect officers who do things the right way, helping shield them from false accusations. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is your answer. These are rare circumstances. It sucks that they happen, cops/higher ups should be held responsible, policies and procedures need to change, but that's quite an investment and continued maintenance cost for something that happens 1 time out of how many arrests? 1000? 10,000? Just not a very cost effective move. I'd rather they put that money towards something else (if anything).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) FWIW, someone actually asked one of the spinal injury experts at Johns Hopkins about whether that could even happen and they reported that there's only 1 example on record of a self-inflicted neck injury since they began keeping data. Do we know where his spine was broken? I'm assuming we're talking about the neck, right? If so, I have personal experience of a friend who broke his neck and got paralyzed in a freak accident. It's entirely possible (though I don't buy it) that he was hurling himself around inside the van and fell or hit his head in a weird way while the van was bouncing around and suffered the injury. Just because he didn't ram his head into the side of the van in an attempt to break his neck doesn't mean it's not possible that he still caused it by doing something else. Again, I don't buy it, but I don't really think an expert's opinion on known cases of self-inflicted spinal injuries is all that persuasive. edit: and if it was self inflicted, wouldn't he have a bunch of contusions/hematoma in his head from the repeated injury? That's going to take quite a bit of force.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) Why would the various gangs of Baltimore cooperate with each other? Would they even have any formal line of communication with one another? Of course!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) So, a government bureaucracy is going to pick just the best candidates? If so, why'd they lower their standards? affirmative action/discrimination issues, i'd imagine.

I have a hard time believing that major cities don't get good candidates. CPD gets thousands of applicants for very few spots. They can pick and choose the good candidates.