quickman

Hotsox, keep your peeps open in the locker room. I know we did Torborg before but we did Larussa before and I am sure we would take him agian right. Now before you go nuts I know Larussa and Torborg are not the same type of managers but still think Torborg has learned enough. He has kept close ties with the Chisox. As for backman, if it was next year I would think he would want the job. I still think he wants the job somewhere in the majors. Who else is out there? How about Sandy Alomar SR>? Just grasping at straws.

and then we are sucked back in agian, and nothing changes. We will think we are OK and Manual will end up staying, this sucks...Chubs lost too.

Wow, I apprecaite your opinion everyone but repsectfully dissagree about TOrborg. Now there is no way Wally Backman is coming here in the middle of the season and taking htem tot he playoffs. Not happening. We need a big name guy who has managed the majors before and teams in the playoffs. Still think torborg would be good. Not a huge Valentine fan, I am sure alomar could comment to the SOx managment on him. Leyland won't take his buddies (JM) place. Johnson would be another choice.

Hotsox- On the Market, I like Jeff Torborg. I liked him when he was with the SOx and Still do.

I am in, something needs to happen. Listen to Chicago radio they don't think its his fault. You ahve to send a message, make the change

a f***ing ducksnort wins the game, this is sickening. Why doesn't manual say this sucks, we suck. Because he sucks!

Lee needs to go NOW. My god pitcher is starting to struggle and he hits the first pitch. They are going to get swept. this sucks. I cannot beleive this. They do not deserve to win. Back up the Truck Now I want to see some kids play with enthusiasm. We are going to lose to Cleveland big time

Here comes first pitch hitting Carlos lee. This is gonna suck

What a sad game, the game is an hour old and in the bottom of the sixth. Both teams suck big time. I realize everyone listens to post game shows and sports shows, and they all blame the players. I am not disscounting the effect the players have but we need a massive shakeup. We are having a hard time scoring runs at all,we can't hit and Alomar needs to get a bunt down to move the runner over. He didn't bunt one over. We need all players to manufacture runs. JM needs to udnerstand game conditions. He is laying for the homerun every inning. This team has no desire or passion right now. That said shake it up! JR should fly to cleveland and let them have it.

Boring............. Our announcers are beginning to announce like the team plays. They just suck all of them. The team, the TV guys, the stupid commercials. If I see another "this is Whitesox Baseball I am going to puke. How in the world can this team go lame in such a short period of time. It doesn't make sense.

Well not much to say... our announcers are even dejected. Its pretty low now, there have been so many low points this year I don't know if this is the lowest or not, oh wait Marte is in for another inning.. he must need the work, what if we are winning 3-2 tommorrow and need him to pitch.Whoops he won't be able to. Now that is smart. Lets protect the two run deficet as much as we can, because we may just rally bigtime in the ninth because of all the hits we got today. HMMM good thinking. We don't need Marte tommorrow. You see this is the bulls*** I hate.

4-2 detriot, top of the 8th, marte came in the 7th retired everyone in order.now manual is going to suck him off i9n the dugout while marte puts his arm in a sling.

JM loves marte, I think he sucks his dick, he is in there when we are winning tying or losing. The guys arm has to be meat right now. I swear he can't wait to get this guy in the game. This will be the next problem. Our bullpens arms will fall off or need surgery at the end of the year. If its the seventh inning marte is in doesn't matter what the score is.

Of all the people in this country why can we not find a catcher that can hit a baseball? Jeez layoff the f-in breaking balls. As catchers they certainly see alot of these coming at them. layoff the damn things and maybe we can squeeze out a walk everyonce in awhile. God these guys suck

Adding more fuel to the fire, the next move needs to be Manual getting fired. Its the only way now.This is nuts they don't seem to care. No fire, no trying, Colon is a piece of crap fat ass. No intensity in Tampa no intensity in detriot. Konerko blows, I actaully hate that piece of s***, Koch just sucks, Thomas will now brute because he didn't make the all star team. They look lifeless compared to the home stand. If they don't care why should I care?

as long as konerko goes.

So why couldn't you make that trade at the end of the year. Bad timing to do that now. You could make the exact same trade at the winter meetings.

We won't see the noon game, I have extra innings as well and they don't televise unless the game starts an hour before or after the national game. If we do get it on extra innings it would be via Detriot broadcast.

The Saturday make up rain delay game will not be televised. This would be the Buerhle game.

What was the start of the thread? Brian Giles? Nope he's not coming. no trade clause, in addition HotSOx chick (if you believe in her source) claims the big trade is off and it was with the marlins. I am sure she can comment.

Here is a post from the Dodger forum. Nice to have others in the same boat as us. http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/message.asp...g=13480.1&ctx=0

Kelly was on live last night on the score with J Hood. He believes he will be back the third week of July. Not all is lost here. JM could start using Sanders for the one damn batter he uses wunch anyway. I think before we go out and get another lefty we need to win against the s***ty teams. I think we have bigger problems than Wunch.

Another update: Minni loses 8-6 which is big, but KC is now winning 2-0 in the fifth.

I voted for frank, 56 times already. I will add a few more tommorrow, Yes the hope is a double loss, but what crap. I have an idea, Don't play Konerko ever again, have manual keep the same damn lineup three games in a row, maybe have Olivo bunt a bit more to get out of the 0-24 slump, did I mention never play Konerko again, and keep Koch out of tight games.

long night and I won't sleep knowing a game is going on. Ok Minni still losing 8-5 in the top of 8.