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    4/2 | White Sox vs Diamondbacks | 8:10PM CT | Bally Sports AZ

    in 2022 Season in Review

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    Just now, maloney.adam said:

    I don’t think they should add more to the pen. They will be fine with what they have. It’s the rotation that worries me. You have Lynn that’s now injured, you have Keuchel that is a batting practice pitcher now and Kopech that isn’t stretched out. That is 3 pitchers. 

    Oh I completely agree with you. I just think the Sox are different and go cheap. Maybe they think the pen upgrade is cheaper and can bridge the gap. Who knows I just think the window is really shrinking. 

    4/2 | White Sox vs Diamondbacks | 8:10PM CT | Bally Sports AZ

    in 2022 Season in Review

    Posted

    Just now, maloney.adam said:

    Well I think they got to pay the price now. Outside of ReyLo I can’t think of anyone in the farm system that can come up and provide the same production. 

    I agree they will need to pay and give up if they think this is the window. Lynn is a big key to this team. Another Avenue is replacing Kimbrel in the pen. I am not saying this is optimal but if they move Lopez up and get a pen guy it would cost less which is what the Sox like doing.

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said:

    Anxiously awaiting the angry 2023 off season discussion after not buying out Pollock's option.  

    It’s a player option not a team option. If Pollack leaves for free agency the Sox pay him 5 million to leave. He can choose to stay for 10 million 

    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    I mean, it’s him or Graveman by default.  Harrison is the opposite of exciting and Velasquez is the definition of just a guy.  Still can’t believe we spent $30M on those four plus Leury.

    Agreed the Sox came into the off season. With holes and addressed very little if any. There minors leagues suck , so can’t address from within, and they really didn’t get any difference makers just fill ins. Others addressed there holes with difference makers. If we are done adding then it will be tough to go deep this year just like past years. 

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    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    Wouldn't surprise me if the numbers you mentioned is what he signs for, but Boras will want opt outs. 

    I think the Sox would

    agree to opt outs. If they believe in colas and their payroll is expected to be higher to keep their own they would love opt outs. Sounds good to me opt out all you want.  

    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    Oakland actually got Montas from the Dodgers.

    Yes traded with Thompson to the dodgers, he never played with them , went to oakland I get it. Semian, Bassitt other examples in recent history . that said maybe Oakland does a better job or developing some of the fringe players. maybe they don't.

    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    Montas was the centerpiece of the Todd Frazier trade and was 54th overall prospect per Baseball America.  He was no throw-in and we never traded him to OAK.

    I am coming to find out that other teams are just better at developing players or identifying potential better than the Whitesox are. Oakland just has some pretty good insights as it pertains to trades with the whitesox.

    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    57 minutes ago, Tony said:

    So by that logic, Carlos Correa sucks?

    No thats not my logic because correa is a top player, conforto is not. At least not in my standard. Freeman top player, conforto not. I guess I am saying why hasn't somebody swooped in and grabbed this guy. Balta says because he was a qualifying offer .. ok that maybe a reason for sure but if he is so good who the hell cares. Correa is that good, but he will cost huge dollars. Freeman is that good but he will cost huge dollars. Conforto is not in that league. may be people value the lost pick more than conforto. 

    Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 minute ago, PolishPrince34 said:

    We have $60 million off the books next year if you include Abreu. He makes 10.2 million this year and give him a 3 year extension between 12-15 million per. Would still have plenty of money for Giolito. 

    Abreu will go year to year if he comes back he doesn’t want another team and the Sox want him but not long term.

    Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

    I don't think the Sox wanted to get this close to the Tax in the 1st place let alone go over it. They are planning to be able to make moves at the TDL too so they feel something has to be in reserve. Kimbrel's the move that has to get done 1st.

    If we are $17M away from the cap anything  freeing up $10M+ leaves the Sox able to afford $20M a year more and leaves some for the TDL. Might even get a prospect to use in a trade.

    But what assets do we really have to trade at the deadline even for a real good rental? Our minor league system is really bad and if we cant swing deals now for a one year pitcher why would we be able to swing for deals later when more teams will be fighting for playoff spots and they have better systems to deal from. The sox are at their highest payroll in their history now and re probably two players away from really being a world series contender with no minor league prospects that many teams care about. Not arguing at all but we gave up two players from our current roster last year at the deadline. 

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    Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 minutes ago, Baron said:

    I swear I don't think I've seen any other team in major league have as many people that think they have insider information as this one. Everyone and their dog claims to have inside information on the White Sox. We have like 5 random food accounts and now a person claiming to have seen the White Sox financial records. What are they doing walking people through their offices and letting them read what's on the desks? 

    Histerical 

    Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

    I bet if the RF issue is still a problem after this season and he didn’t address it at the deadline, he’s gone. 

    I agree as I have said in earlier threads this is hahns mess to clean up. Management gives a budget ( right or wrong) managers implement there staff or team. Your measured on results . Hahn is mismanaging. 

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