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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) My argument is that these kids had and have promise that was never fulfilled at the Major League Level. These guys were great Minor League players who failed to carry sustained success into their major leaguer performance. While you can blame a large part of that on mindset, are you going to tell me that the hitting coach escapes all blame? He doesn't hold enough blame to lose his job because minor league "Studs" Brian Anderson and Josh Fields, can't get it done at the big league level How many teams do you think would trade for Brian or Josh? Yeah

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Who was the hitting coach? The arguement you made is that BA and Fields never had any talent. That's B.S, they just haven't realized it when they got to the Majors. My arguement is that BA and Fields don't have major league talent above a .230 or .240 batting average and an OPS over .700 Is that what you'd accept as OK? Then stop head-hunting for Greg Walker, because these two kids just aren't very smart to begin with

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) You wanna tell me that the first thing you thought when you saw Field and Ba's minor league numbers was that these two kids were going to be busts at the Major League level? Because nobody who had good numbers in the minor leagues has come up to the big leagues and not succeeded.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) He shouldn't, he stinks. Beckham 2B Lexi SS Pods CF Fields 3B for the rest of the year, just leave it alone anyone else with me?

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) It really makes me laugh that the only argument in defending Walker is that Cooper should be getting just as much s***, rofl. Then read mine

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:38 PM) I never once blamed Walker for the failures of Wise and Lillibridge, and anyone who did is an idiot. Both of those guys were clearly not Major League talent. Anderson is? Fields is? Getz is? Why is it so hard to fathom that the reason our young players suck this year is because wait They're not good enough? What can walker do with s***?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:34 PM) Coop's shown he has the ability to make people better from his teachings. Who other then Q has shown a marked improvement under Walk? Nobody can prove one way or another that Quentin's resurgence was because of Walker

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) Why is Cooper not getting any crap for Colon giving up all of these home runs? There are a lot of people on this board that make no sense. If the Sox offense is bad, its on the hitting coach. If they give up 6 runs in 5 innings, the pitching coach has nothing to do with it. I'm with you DA, ultimately these guys are hitting the way they are because of the types of hitters they are, and probably a bit of anxiety and doing too much at the plate. Intangible problems that a hitting coach has no remedy for I'm all for Williams stepping down, however, as the players who are on the ML roster (outside of Beckham, who was a can't miss for whichever team grabbed him) are HIS players and scouted by HIS scouts

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Anyone know the last time the Sox didn't have a hitter with 100 RBIs? 2007 we didn't

Jermaine's swing is about the slowest I've seen it in ... well as long as I can remember Can the 2 days off really do that?

Tribe BP warming up, sweet. Guys we've faced before.

nice swing alexei, you saw that coming

White Sox fans I don't think are capable of handling the possibility of Beckham being a bust, I mean can you just imagine..

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:19 PM) I think Buehrle will win, but the rest, who knows. Which would give us a 3-9 homestand, hahahaha. I see Gavin having a better performance than Mark

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:19 PM) KW is probably livid, but really has no one to blame but himself. ^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:16 PM) Over/under should have a .5 in it... as in, the over/ under is 2.5 runs. That's if you're trying to say Cleveland will score more than 2. you're right 2.5 would've been what I was trying to say

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) Dude, this is probably one of the worst teams of the passed decade. at least 2007 had the injury excuse though we're missing out on TCQ, i doubt he'd make that huge of a difference at this point

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) You are halfway there Over halfway now

Colon back on the bump, O/U on runs the tribe puts up this inning 2 I'm taking the over

STRETCH STRETCH lol

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:07 PM) The White Sox. beats

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:06 PM) Hey a baserunner. What are the chances he scores? 0 percent? what's less than 0%?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) Do you think Greg Walker can be fired during the game? If we get shut out today, there's no way a change can't be made. i shared your opinion on this before but, a change probably would've been made by now if they cared that much

Pods and alexei will get 4 at-bats today

Sit down Jermaine