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QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Apr 18, 2008 -> 10:53 PM)Well I'm glad the Sox chose the right option here.
You don't fix what's not broke.
And the Sox offense before today was averaging 5.53 runs a game, which is the top in the American League.
Give Owens a month or so in AAA to build up some value, and get him hot again, and then you look at it down the road.
But Owens would be nice to have around to run for one of the cloggers in a late tight game. While Anderson runs fast, he is not a base stealer. The way the guys are going, I agree neither is going to play ahead of Quentin, Swisher, Dye. Owens base stealing is an added dimension that BA doesn't bring. If I ran the White Sox, I'd switch them out. And it's got to be BA, you can't go with only Zoomer as your only IF sub.
We could have used Owens in Baltimore for Dye in the 10th. JD drew 7 pegs to first but really wasn't a threat where as Owens might have gotten AJ a straight fast ball to hit. A real live base stealer can change the dynamics of an at bat, whether he steals or not.
My Dodge ain't broke, but I'd sure like a Corvette better.
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QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 08:35 PM)I sure hope Ozzie and Kenny are not listening.
I couldn't disagree with you stronger.
Swisher is a MUCHHHHH better on-base option than Owens, which makes him a better leadoff option. Not even comparable. Not even a pony race.
There is NO research that suggests having a speed guy at the top of the order contributes to wins. NONE. In fact, almost all of the baseball research over the last 20 years suggests the opposite... that most steal attempts are a waste of time that create outs and take runs off the board.
Promoting Owens over Quentin would be a baaaad mistake. Quentin is simply a much more talented player. Not sure how anyone could want Owens over Quentin.
If you want to promote Owens over Brian, I could live with that. But, frankly, it's a toss-up between those two with Brian being the better defensive option.
I appreciate your thoughts. But I think the White Sox could have used an Owens type tonight. Put Swisher's on base at bats down the order and perhaps some chaos from Owens in front of Cabrera and they might have scored a couple runs.
Its hard to win with a station to station team unless they bash, they only have one way to win right now.
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If Jerry Owens could maintain the level of play he had in the 2nd half last year he would contribute more wins than Quentin. He has raw speed + base stealing moxie, can run down balls in the OF and is a pain in the butt to pitch against. When the dog days come around the White Sox are going to need what he brings.
I like Quentin and Anderson but neither can do what Owens can do. They can do other things better but unless Ramirez were to gain some traction Owen's is the only long term lead off option they have. A real lead off hitter will make Cabrera better and Swisher belongs between Konerko and Dye anyway.
That said, until they are sure that Owens is going to play like late last year, there is no sense in shaking things up. Owens will have to get on a roll in Charlotte, and he will need to prove he can play at a high level for a couple weeks in a row, to get brought up. But an Owens who is going good, is a very good option for the White Sox.
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Interesting to note that from Clete Thomas' at bat in the 5th inning to Sheffield's at bat in the 9th inning, White Sox pitchers threw 24 consecutive strikes -no balls -10 batters. That was Vazquez and Thornton. Then once Masset settled down he threw 7 consecutive strikes to Cabrera, Jones and Thames to end the game.
Nice to have an 11 run lead.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 10, 2008 -> 12:29 AM)I feel sorry for him.
That said do any of you dislike ultra tall pitchers as much as I do?
Tom Seaver was what, 5-11?
With the exception of Randy Johnson, do you like tall pitchers?
I like tall pitchers of beer.
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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 01:34 PM)8 I believe, but they were 319 games above .500 at the time, so it almost didn't matter.
Yes, but it made for one of longest weeks in my life.
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Chicago WSox Nick Swisher LF .500 Orlando Cabrera SS .250 Jim Thome DH .400 Paul Konerko 1B .200 Jermaine Dye RF .750 AJ Pierzynski C .500 Alexei Ramirez CF .000 Joe Crede 3B .200 Juan Uribe 2B .250 Javier Vazquez (0-0, 0.00) Cleveland Grady Sizemore CF .250 Asdrubal Cabrera 2B .000 Jhonny Peralta SS .500 Travis Hafner DH .250 Ryan Garko 1B .250 Franklin Gutierrez RF 1.000 David Dellucci LF .000 Casey Blake 3B .250 Kelly Shoppach C .500 Fausto Carmona (0-0, 0.00) Umpires: HP: Brian Gorman. 1B: Bruce Dreckman. 2B: Sam Holbrook. 3B: Gerry Davis. Weather: 37 degrees, clear.Wind: 9 mph, In from RF.
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The Garko call was too close to cry over. Lost in the argument is it was a great play by Garko, it could have gone either way.
The Crede call was blown, he was safe.
The O. Cabrera call was correct. It was a boner by O.
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QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 11:32 PM)While Alexie has looked good in ST, I'm not sold on his ability to hit pitches with movement .... yet. He can hit a fastball, but he won't see many of those until he proves he can hit the offspeed and breaking pitches. I think he'll eventually be able to do so, but it may be ugly for a while.
Joe Smith made him look like a girl yesterday, K'd him on 3 pitches. Alexie may never see a fastball in his career.
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Its all about starting pitching. Last year's w-l projected to this year's rosters. Playoffs based on top 3.
Div Team W Playoffs
ALC Cleveland Indians -93
ALE Toronto Blue Jays -96 ALDS ALCS
ALW Los Angeles Angels -93 ALDS
AWC New York Yankees -94
NLC Milwaukee Brewers -88
NLE Philadelphia Phillies -92 NLDS
NLW San Diego Padres -93 NLDS NLCS WS
NWC Atlanta Braves -92
Only the Indians and Padres seem to have a real edge, if a starter on any of these teams goes bad, or if somebody finds another Carmona, these could look pretty stupid. The White Sox come out with 76 wins. Past performance does not guarantee future results so we will have to watch the games to find out.
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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 04:22 PM)
Pravda! Its a real link. Love ya Balta!
Even the commies know about it (although they are probably following Brian Anderson). Great post. -
In the first month or so every combination discussed will be tried out. The players will sort themselves out by themselves. Some guys will fail, some will get hurt and I hope some will do well. Its not like this roster, much less line up, is locked in for the year.
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QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 22, 2008 -> 03:18 AM)I bet we get Len Casper and Bob Brenly for this one.
:fthecubs
No TV, not even MLB.com, Comcast has the BlackHawks, WGN TV is airing American Idol reruns. Only option is grub radio on WGN. Does the incisive Ron Santo do spring games? Oh Noooo!
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He spent the offseason, he said, trying to focus on the mental side of baseball. He came to Spring Training with a stronger mental approach to everything.
Judging from the cerebral capacity he has shown in his stints in Chicago, changing his mental approach probably took about 5 seconds.
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The guy Nelson Cruz homered off of in the tenth yesterday is none other than Matt Anderson, late of the Tigers and Rockies. I didn’t know the Sox organization signed him. He sat out 2007 and started a comeback with Naranjeros de Hermosillo last fall. He got into 3 games, lost 2 of them. 3.1 IP, 2 ER, 4 BB (1 intentional), 2 K, 1 HR for an ERA of 5.40. He’s obviously a deep, deep reclamation project if the organization keeps him around at all. Yesterday was his only appearance for the big club this spring.
Isn’t this the same kid who used to throw 100 mph for the Tigers? Has anyone seen him, does he still throw hard?
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QUOTE(iamshack @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 06:23 PM)Hood works with Carmen DiFalco and Jeff Dickerson on "The Show" on ESPN 1000. He's decent, but is a bit too critical for the amount of knowledge he actually has.
Hood hosts a dynamite Saturday show on High School sports. I'm not much for BBall so I've been skipping lately but I found myself rearranging time so I could catch him during football. He not only runs down the scores and news but finds good guests and doesn't ignore academics. He doesn't just read stuff out of the paper but goes to games and tells you what happened, he was real good during the playoffs. I gained a lot of respect for him with the way he handles this show.
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Does he seem more relaxed at the plate when he plays the corners instead of center? His career splits trend that way but there are not a lot of games. I just thought he had more focused at bats when playing left in the couple of clips I've seen this spring, so I looked it up.
He's only 17 AB into meaningless ST games, but has anyone else noticed this?
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The key question is this: Will there be enough time to get in a word with the always talkative Farmer as his partner?
“Easily,” Stone said with a laugh. “I think I’ll take the same philosophy as I had with Harry (Caray). People asked ‘How did I do it with Harry?’ I’d say ‘I filled in the gaps.’ Having grown up watching Ed pitch, I have the utmost respect for him.”
"Having grown up watching Ed pitch ..." Ha, ha. catch the dig? they've started already. Could be a good pairing.
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QUOTE(DaveBrown85 @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 09:42 PM)sorry i didnt know that i had the caps lock on
and if what you say is the truth that sucks now im going to have to buy them from white sox ticket exchange or stub hub
I guess that was a capital offense to some (har), welcome to the board and good luck with your tickets!
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 02:46 PM)Wait isn't everyone thanking the Sox for the $110 million payroll?
Guys this was inevitable. If we want a top 10 payroll, we have to have a top 10 revenue base. Tickets, parking, and everything else going just going to keep going up as long as the Sox are putting out this kind of money.
I thought I read on these boards (might have been Steff?) that neither the White Sox nor the State of Illinois own the parking lots. The real estate and administration are a separate operation owned by the Reinsdorf family so it won't impact the team either way. If I have this wrong, please correct me. I've also heard it elsewhere, urban legend?
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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 6, 2008 -> 07:10 AM)Hawk Harrelson will be calling White Sox games at least 4 more years, per Robert Feder in the Sun Times. Some hate him some love him, personally, he pisses me off a lot, but I do love him and am glad he will be around for a while.
That will take him to age 69. You can put it on the board ... wheeze!
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QUOTE(farmteam @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 03:15 AM)Not really, but if they do it wouldn't really surprise me. I think a lot of people forget that many players had subpar years last year. With the additions, plus, to borrow a phrase from Woodrow Wilson, "A return to normalcy," I'll think we'll be better than most people think. That said, the Tigers and Indians are definitely better. I think our lack of a true leadoff hitter and an untested back-end of the rotation will hurt us.
The phrase was from Warren Harding.
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Thinking about the matchups and the make up of the team:
Game 1 Buehrle V Sabathia
Cabrera SS
Fields 3B
Swisher 1B
Konerko DH
Dye RF
Quentin LF
Hall C
Uribe 2B (Ozuna if he's gone)
Anderson CF
Game 2 Vazquez V Carmona
Owens CF
Cabrera SS
Thome DH
Konerko 1B
Swisher LF
Dye RF
Peirzynski C
Fields 3B
Richar 2B
It will be interesting to see who plays well with who defensively. The White Sox seem to me to have a lot of useful situational players rather than everyday stars. It would not surprise me to see 12 different position players get on the field over the course of any given game.
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QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 16, 2008 -> 05:08 PM)How?
Lets see if we can find a link.
The White Sox got Bonds from the Angels along with Thad Bosley and Richard Dotson for Brian Downing, Chris Knapp, and Dave Frost over the winter of 77/78. He wore out his welcome fast and was traded to the Rangers in May 1978 for Claudell Washington and Rusty Torres. He bounced around with three more teams, including 45 games with the grub in '81 and played his final game October 4, 1981.
Mr. Washington was moved in in 1980 to the Mets for Jesse Anderson who never played in the big leagues. The White Sox got the better of the deal. Rusty Torres was released by the White Sox in 1980.
Sammy Sosa signed as a free agent with Texas in 1985 and made his MLB debut at the age of 20 on June 16, 1989. He was traded in 1989 with Wilson Alvarez and Scott Fletcher to the White Sox for Harold Baines and Fred Manrique.
He was then traded in 1992 by the White Sox with Ken Patterson to the Vermin for George Bell.
No connection I can see. I hope our friend is not confusing Bobby Bonds with Harold Baines, that would be truly blasphemous.
Owens Activated off of the DL
in Pale Hose Talk
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Except Owens is one of those '86 Toyotas that people put duel exhaust and a spoiler on, and think that they're in The Fast And The Furious when they drive it.
The kid stole 32 major league bases in 93 games, 8 CS. Thats pretty good. I'm thinking of him in a situational role, not to start over Quentin or Swisher.