whitesoxbrian

Perhaps this isn't the thread for it, but it is positive, so here's the way I look at it: We were supposed to lose 90-95 games. We were lost in the picture after Detroit signed Cabrera and a piece of crap Willis. We were lost in the picture when the Indians kept pretty much their whole team. However, Detroit sucked and I knew it- Willis had a 5 ERA last year in the NL. The Indians, well we lucked out with their injuries however I do think Hafner and Martinez helped us by laying off the HGH. Then, we kept playing hard, and scratching out W's, don't matter how inconsistent our f'ing offense was. Nobody believed in Danks and Floyd, until June/July. At this point, everyone kept picking us to win the division. Nobody believed in the Twins. Everyone was ruling out the Tigers and Indians (after the CC trade). Come mid August and early September, Quentin broke his hand, Crede wasn't going to play again, and Contreras tore his achillies. The team could have rolled over and died. They lost their clutch hero of years past (Crede), their best clutch player this year (maybe 2nd behind Alexei) and the MVP (Quentin), and their horse (Contreras). And yet, this team made the f'ing playoffs. We depended on f'ing Nick Swisher this year, he blew a**, and we still managed to play 3+ games in October. God bless Ozzie and the team.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:46 PM) Brian Roberts at 2nd, Ram at SS with a real 3rd baseman and a replacement for Javvy and Id be excited for next year. What would we have to give Baltimore to get Huff OR Mora and Roberts??

QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:45 PM) I agree that Brian Roberts would be an ideal fit for our lineup, but I'm not sure we have the horses to get him. Orlando Hudson is probably more likely as an FA. With Cano possibly being traded, the Yankees will go for Roberts or Hudson. However, Baltimore won't trade him to New York which means Hudson may be on his way to the Bronx. In other words, I like our chances of landing Roberts.

After today's performance, sit back, watch the set, have a few (like, 30) beers, and relax.

QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:34 PM) I agree that high AVG/high OBP is preferable to low AVG/high OBP, but guys like that are hard to find. My boy Brian Roberts finds a way, and that's just 1 off the top of my head. Cabrera isn't so bad, but his attitude and all that makes people forget he hit close to .285 and I believe (I'm guessing) his OBP was around .335. That isn't great by Cabrera, but he isn't a lead-off guy anyways. He's a good 8, 9, or 2 hitter in the MLB.

QUOTE (almagest @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:33 PM) So all Thome does is get on base and club doubles and homers. Man, what an awful DH! And, yeah, Adam Dunn is a good hitter. I don't know what metrics you rate good hitters by, but someone who has a .381 lifetime OBP and a slugging percentage over .500 is pretty good. Seriously I can't believe you thought Adam Dunn being bad was a valid point. Do you pay attention to ANY stat besides batting average? I never said he was bad. But he isn't a good HITTER. He is a good all around offensive player because of his good eye, not because he rips singles all over the park.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Ryan howard hit .230...does that make him a good hitter. I don't think so. oh wait. Ryan Howard hit .250 this year. QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:29 PM) Adam Dunn is an excellent hitter. No, he's an excellent offensive player. Not an excellent hitter, though.

QUOTE (almagest @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:25 PM) Thome "just isn't a good hitter?" On whose authority? Yours? Please. He got us into the playoffs. He still put up an .865 OPS at the age of 37. He gets on base a ton and more than half his hits were extra base hits. You probably want to come up with some actual legitimate evidence before you post. Yeah, that's all he does. He hit what, .245? I never said he doesn't get on base for us- that would be the reason I'd want to keep him actually, if his AVG wasn't so bad. So yeah, he isn't a good hitter. Probably 75% of Adam Dunn's hits were extra base hits, does that make him a good hitter? Don't think so.

This makes missing most of the game on Sunday due to the Bears are on at noon and (season tickets makes me go) going to the Hawks final home preseason game even easier. Before the game today, I was pissed. Now? Not so much.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:17 PM) Trade PK for a kegger of Heneiken and a dozen brand new bats. His September arguably got us into the playoffs, single handedly. Are you a moron?

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:15 PM) This was a total team effort. Not one person had a good game. Dye did.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:14 PM) Remember this about Lincecum...the Giants were close to trading him for Rios. If they sign C.C., they might be willing to trade him. I was being serious. But okay.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) Cust broke a record for strike outs in the AL. I don't really want him on the team. Did Thome almost break the record? All I'm saying is that Cust is like 10 years younger or so and that's something he can improve on. Thome's K's will continue to rise due to his bat getting slower, he still can't hit a LHP, and he just isn't a good hitter. All of those things, however, Cust could improve on.

It's about that time for one of those meaningless Thome HRs, right?

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:12 PM) On the bright side, PK's huge September made his trade value legit again. Fathom- you're the best at making trades that look dumb, yet upon further review they actually make sense. So- make up a potential trade partner for PK and what we could get back, would ya?

QUOTE (zenryan @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:10 PM) maybe Oakland. They like old power hitting guys who can only DH. They have Cust. I doubt they take Thome. Although, I'd give them Thome for Cust.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:09 PM) Who's going to want Thome though? That's my point. And it sucks. But we have a few posters on here who love his 110 or whatever Ks, tons of walks, homeruns, and nothing else and so he is our best hitter, blah blah blah. Hit? If so, bye Shoeless.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) Bring in Uribe? What does that mean? Have him player even closer to home, so he won't stop any balls from getting past him? I mean like bring him in, as in- keep him on the team, but as an "every 3rd or 4th day" guy.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:03 PM) You missed my plan from last night...trade Quentin for Lincecum, and sign Manny. Not bad. How about: trade Quentin for Lincecum trade Thome for _________________? sign Manny DH Manny, keep Dye in RF

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Fire sale after we get eliminated,anyone else notice that every team in the AL playoffs can manufacture runs because they have speed?Angels,Red Sox and Rays...all the other team aren't swinging for the fences all the time,they can score without home runs unlike us.Just remember 2005,it was our pitching,defense and ability to produce runs with out always depending on the long ball,we did hit a lot of homers in 05 but unlike this year and lest you forget,last year we couldn't score without home runs...f*** you Williams,tear this team up. Fire sale? We should have won 78 games this year, but instead, we won 89. We have to keep Dye, Konerko, Swisher (well, we don't HAVE to, but we will), Alexei, Danks, Buehrle, Jenks, Thornton, Linebrink, Carrasco, Quentin, and AJ, and then a few more guys I'm not thinking of off the top of my head. Unfortunately, Thome has that dopey clause in his contract. I think we should bring in Uribe, trade for a 3B (Mora, Beltre, etc.), hopefully Q stays healthy for a season, get Brian Roberts, and trade for/sign a CF'er. I wish we could get a guy like Manny to DH, but again, we have Thome, and KW would never want Manny (along with many on this board). And, if we do trade Thome and don't want Manny, get someone to play RF and DH Dye.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 06:57 PM) Yes he did. Wasn't that Arroyo?

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 06:51 PM) There are a ton of similarities, such as the Red Sox having to start a terrible Clement against us in game 1. Clement didn't start game 1 of the 2005 ALDS vs us.

f*** this Good thing this offense broke our f***ing hearts.

Harold Reynolds is terrible. Go f*** yourself and state the obvious while you're at it. If that's what TBS wanted you to do, you're doing your job well. a**hole

Game.