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Tiny Tim Lincecum

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 06:05 PM) Here's a wikipedia list of various muckraking authors. I'm not sure any of them fit your description. It's Jacob Riis! Yes, thanks man. This thread can be closed now.

I need a quick bit of help, during the Theodore Roosevelt administration there was a book published documenting the horrible conditions of urban life in New York City. If I remember correctly the author was invited to the White house to discuss the matter personally with the President. I need the name of the author. I’m blanking, right now, and it’s pissing me off. Google thinks I’m being too vague.

Can we bring back Will Cordero too?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 12:53 PM) Yeah, if they're going to give it to a pitcher it should be Bailey. Look at Brett Anderson's numbers. Beyond Win and Loss.

QUOTE (Felix @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 05:32 PM) Mauer should be the only one with votes. There is no logical case that can be made for any other player in the AL. I could make a faint, distant case for Ben Zobrist, but it would be beyond a stretch. The award should be Mauer's.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) ??? It's as simple as saying they are not interested in either, there is no law that they have to negotiate with them, it's not like they are in any sort of jeopardy. Btw, robertson makes ten million next season, talk about a garbage contract. The issue with Washburn and Huff is about offering them ARB. Another awful contract is the Dontrelle Willis extension they gave out.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 05:08 PM) Can you forgive the others who lay down and died? I won't go through all the names. I blame Jensky and Brinkey too. Rios was something of a dissapointment, but he's more about next year. Dye carried us in the 1st half, and then rolled over in the second half. We trusted him, and he failed to meet our expectations when we needed him the most.

He really failed us this year. When it counted the most, he lay down and died (pun fun! Hey-Oh!) I'm not sure i can forgive him for that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) Jackson who fell apart down the stretch, and Verlander who is going to be a TJ special the way he is getting ridden. Not to mention the awful contracts they might have to hand to Washburn, and Huff.

It's been a good ride, but i think the Dye-Train stops here.

I'm impressed at some of the pushes Chris Williams is getting on the O-Line. He's been a bit inconsistent, but for a kid in his spot i can't help, but be impressed.

Joe Mauer With Power. No, not Matt Wieters. Joe Mauer.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 02:25 PM) I just hope he wasn't watching a college football game on Friday night, cause then he'll really be in trouble. I Love you Fathom. Don't ever change.

I love that we took M-Cab partying the night before one of the biggest game of his career. The White Sox are an awesome organization.

That's f***ing sick, dude.

The Ultimate two-pronged pipe dream The Danks Brothers and Shelby for Fielder Konerko, Fields, McCulloch (Yay for Filler!) for Homer Bailey, Chris Heisey, and Alex Smit (lefty AA-pitcher) We've essentially made up for trading Danks by getting Bailey (assuming Bailey can continue pitching like he has over the last two months), and have replaced Jordan Danks with a VERY under the rader player like Heisey who is blocked by about fourty others guys in the Reds system.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 01:26 PM) I read a rumor on Motown sports where he has busted for a DUI. The article mentions his BAC but nothing about a DUI. .26 is ridiculous. I'm hearing domestic abuse reports too. Might explain the scratches on his face.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 01:20 PM) How does that fall in line with his career averages again? His numbers tend to shift about 20 points between levels. Rookie Ball: .401 AA: .382 AAA: .366 MLB: .323 Getz Minor league average OPB was. 362. With progression I'd put his ultimate OPB trend to around .342. But given his lack of power, which I don't think will translate to the majors, and certainly influenced his higher OPB in AAA, I think that will slumps to around .330. I'm fairly confident that Getzs' eye at the plate will improve next year, that's one of the things I like about Getz. He has a really great approach, hopefully, the results (and walks will come along with that).

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 01:14 PM) K, but, I mean it was his rookie year. You won't allow any adjustment period for this kid? I said earlier that i think he could manage an OPB around .333. It seems to fall in line with his career averages. That's league-average, i don' think it really works in the future leadoff man arguements favor.

I'd almost guarantee that Freddy and Ozzie JR were at this party.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) LOL, it's a hell of a lot better than what we currently have. Except for Pods, who has a terrible SB%, can't play defense, and is likely on his way out. This may come as a surprise to you, but players can improve their OBP in the majors. Ray Durham put up a .309 OBP in his rookie season (which consisted of more major league ABs than Getz currently has). Of course you do, despite the way that his numbers are trending and what common sense tells you. Chris Getz is not Ray Durham. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Chris Getz will benefit for years from having a grinder label. Durham was a damn good athlete, who managed 13 major league season despite having bum knees for the last half of them. Durham was a HUGE power threat for a 2b, his OPB improved, becasue pitchers walked him, out of respect and fear of that power. Chris Getz will never earn this kind of respect. You hang a pitch to Durham you might just see it leave the park. Getz takes bad pitches, and strokes doubles and singles. Durham was inconsistent in the field, he fell off significantly over his career, but he had a lot of the same strengths that Nix has. Nix has far more range then Getz, better hands and better instincts. The numbers back me up.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 12:53 PM) If you are already counting out both Hudson and Torres, I agree with your first sentence. Of course. Hudson and Torres are on my major league team for next year.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 12:52 PM) No, it's not. Did you even look at Getz's minor league numbers? OBP of .401 in rookie ball, OBP of .382 in AA in 2007, and an OBP of .366 in Charlotte last year. Being a competent leadoff hitter and "anchor[ing] an offense" are not the same thing. I'd expect about .335 for next season, so we're in agreement. But .350 isn't out of the question, especially a year down the road. If he weren't making contact with the ball, I'd be less optimistic about his future, but all he has to do is learn to take more walks. to claim that he's been a "plus defender" this year. What you’re describing is a league-average lead-off man. That's not ideal. Also, minor league OBP numbers don't tend to correlate directly with major league numbers. They can, however, point in the right direction. Getzs' OPB numbers (as to be expected with a player going through the Minors) fall every year. Rookie Ball: .401 AA: .382 AAA: .366 MLB: .323 I'd say .340 is about the best we can hope for Getz. I don't think he or Nix are the long-term answer. Nor do i think Getz sucks. I just think Nix is the better player.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 12:39 PM) One thing we seem to have an abundance of is intriguing RP prospects. For our minor league gurus, who's the closest to the show at this point? In the whole system? I'd say that Hynick and Ely are our two closest starters. With Hudson and Torres having graduated from that distinction. We have a lot of pen arms too that could compete as early as next spring, like Link and Hernandez. Also, there's a lot of Harrell hype going on, i'm not as high on him as most, but he's got an arm on him.