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sigh, another huge black eye on boxing tonight paul williams vs erislandy lara, 154 junior middleweight fight basically, lara destroyed williams, I thought the fight was going to be stopped in the 10th rd as Lara was landing straight left hands at will (he landed 50% of his power shots on Williams) williams wins a majority victory, boxing fans are up in arms over this right now as it's being labeled one of the most corrupt decisions of the last 15-20 years quotes i've seen so far from fans: "****ing disgrace!!!! Smfh!!!" "And then people wonder why MMA is getting the better of boxing." "this is embarrasing to the sport. Lara wupped his a$$ and P.Williams and his camp knows it. WOW!" "This is what it is wrong with boxing. No way in justifying this cause it wasn't even close and this is comming from a PW fan" "F*ck boxing I can't take this sh*t no more!!!" "This was an absolute disgrace. Absolute disgrace." "Another robbery from the crooked judges in Atlantic City, NJ." "another nail in the coffin of the sport called "boxing"" "this is bull **** lara won the fight this is the worst robbery i ever seen" "Really disgusted. Btw, long time boxing fan who would be rooting for the American fighter. May cancel Al Haymon/ HBO now. No integrity left in my favorite sport." "This was not surprising because I have known all along how overrated Williams happens to be. And the fight it self was by far one of the worst decision I have ever witnessed. So, the next time I hear about bad decisions in Germany I will just remember how a Cuba fighter, who fought a great fight, got royally screwed in Atlantic City, USA." "There should be an investigation of the judges and ideally the decision should be overturned and the 'W' given to Lara. A real bad black eye for the sport. P.Will wants Martinez after this performance? he is delusional."

OBP be damned lol, attaboy

im pretty sure i cant stomach another late inning loss at home to the twins after the liriano no hitter

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) IMO Gardenhire shouldnt let duensing face our lineup 3x, he should bring in the pen in the 6th.. lets see what happens Gardy should read soxtalk!

IMO Gardenhire shouldnt let duensing face our lineup 3x, he should bring in the pen in the 6th.. lets see what happens

what did gammons say about guillen?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 01:06 PM) Might get embarrassed on Nat'l TV. might? Sox keep this one close just because Mark doesn't have girl parts like Floyd, unfortunately it'll be a Quality Start Loss for Buehrle

not the appropriate thread i know but my mlb traderumors app told me yesterday the yanks released kanekoa texeira (sp?), who we traded them with swisher i believe

I'll explain why I believe the Twins have had this recent surge of asswhipping our Sox, and it's primarily two reasons. Before I give those reasons though, let's look at a few things. The twins roster last year was pretty good. Most of their 25-man was healthy sans Morneau and Nathan. They beat the Sox 13 of 18 times. This year, however, their roster is ravaged with injuries to key players, Span, Kubel, Young, Morneau, and Slowey (SP). Yet, they're 6-0 so far 1. Superior scouting and coaching. The twins organization has seemingly found major flaws in our hitters and can exploit these flaws with mediocre pitching, which is why Carl Pavano, Brian Duensing, Nick Blackburn, etc. give our hitters fits. This exploited flaw: Overly aggressive hitters. We currently have one selective hitter in our lineup, and the rest are a collective of free swingers, period. This is a major flaw than can easily be exploited by mediocre pitching, because a pitcher only has to get to a certain count and then put the appropriate pitch (determined with scouting) in a "zone", versus a location if the pitcher were facing a more patient hitter. Examples being "up and in", with two strikes on Gordon Beckham or Adam Dunn, or (this year), changeups "low and in" to Alexei Ramirez. Hitters that sport mediocre OBP can seemingly be attacked easily against Twins pitching who, while not having devastating "stuff", throw strikes and can locate and command their primary and secondary pitches (something Sox pitching has struggled with: command of secondary pitches. "Floyd/Danks needs to go to plan B because (pitch X/Y) isn't working tonight" is a common theme during Sox broadcasts). The Twins have done their homework with our pitching staff (starting pitching) as well, particularly Floyd and Danks. Mauer has an 8 game hitting streak against Gavin as of last night, and we seem to struggle mightily against the Twins minor league lineup because of how poorly these two particular starters execute their secondary/off speed pitches. It's harder for a hitter to "be more patient", and have it lead to success when you're only sporting a .215-.220 average, but hitters like Revere, Tolbert, Valencia, etc. have bought in and is a reason why we can never seem to get their guys out. 2. Mindset/"Confidence". I won't spend too much time on this one, but in a nutshell the Twins (IMO) believe, from coaching down to the players, they can beat the Sox ass any given night, and they're definitely inside the Sox players heads. You've never seen so many failed attempts with RISP, or 2out RBIs until you've watched a Sox/Twins series circa 2010-2011. It's truly bizarre just my $.02

I will take great pleasure when the following personnel are no longer part of this organization: Ozzie Guillen Kenny Williams Buddy Bell Jerry Reinsdorf ( He can't live forever, can he? ) AJ Pierzynski Don Cooper Greg Walker Gavin Floyd Alex Rios Adam Dunn Mark Teahen I'm in a really bad mood right now, I'm sure there are about 5-10 more missing from this list

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 10:17 PM) If you really want to go all in, put Viciedo at 3b and pray for no balls hit to him. he isnt that bad where everything gets by him

Gordon Bustham see what I did there?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 09:25 PM) Do you think Rios and Morel would put up good numbers in AAA right now no doubt, theres no pressure in AAA

Yyyyyyyes ! for low OBP

FYI Viciedo will most likely be another "swings for his OBP" guy Kenny is incapable of finding guys who get on base beyond what Dunn was supposed to be

If we had any OBP guys in our lineup at all beyond Konerko, we'd destroy twins pitchers Every f***ing guy in our lineup is impossible to walk ezcept Kong and in a good year Dunn Pierre: Doesn't walk Ramirez: Doesn't walk Pierzynski: Doesn't walk Morel: Doesn't walk Beckham: Doesn't walk Rios: Doesn't walk Quentin: Used to walk, he's streaky now though and rarely walks

lol, twins let our hitters get themselves out, Ramirez and Dunn both make outs on pitches up and out of the zone

AJ literally has no f***ing clue how to pitch these hitters

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) Is anybody else laughing right now? because I am. Its gotten to that point 5-13 last year had the chuckling start for me

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Ballgame. I hope a lot of careers are ended tonight. I think Jerry Reinsdork is TRYING to lose fans. Fortinately for him he's probably doing a great job, haha

LOL

Floyd is so lollible.

Dunn and Rios with RBIs, bizarro world

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 07:15 PM) Why give Cuddyer anything to hit with 1st open? Dont interject intelligence into anything Floyd does, a guy who's teammates call: Durrrrrrr

tired of hearing the very worn out 'i cant believe dunn just forgot how to hit after 9 years' nobody is saying he forgot how to hit, he's just SO f***ing wrapped up in his own mind, overthinking and overanalyzing that its become a detriment to his ability the ONLY way he comes out of this is to keep getting him ABs, unfortunately