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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) I believe that would be Jon Jay. he isnt a long term solution from what ive read

replacement in CF for rasmus is my guess

so edwin and matt dog gonna be gone i think

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 11:02 PM) Then you live with your dumb ass mistakes and eat their contracts. Trading away CQ just makes this team weaker. How much money do they lose when attendance falls to the basement, if they trade away CQ and go into rebuild mode? Suck it up and just deal with it, and hope those clowns get better. There are a lot more disposable pieces on this roster, making pretty big money, with some value, that you dump before CQ. I guess I'm just used to an owner over on Madison that actually cares about winning. You know, the guy that ate nearly 6 million last season to dump Huet in Europe, and will do the same this season? If Rios was a hockey player, he'd be in the AHL right now, and never play in the big show again. I hate the finances of baseball. Trading away GOOD players because you have a bunch of overpaid bums on the roster is f***ed up. Maybe what we really need on the South Side is a new owner. they are eating their contracts, they're still being paid by the sox whether they play or get cut nobody in their right mind would release Rios or Dunn in this situation, especially Reinsdorf

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:52 PM) So dump the guy that might actually be worth what he's paid next season...and keep all the overpaid, underachieving, or perpetually injured jackasses. Makes sense. uh, how do you NOT keep rios, peavy, dunn? NOBODY WILL TAKE THEIR CONTRACTS. please tell me you arent one of those morons that keeps yelling to send Dunn and Rios to AAA

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:42 PM) Why would you get rid of Quentin, even if you ARE rebuilding? I don't understand the logic. He's 28. He is one of the best hitters the Sox have. He seems to have bounced back pretty well from the injury issues. Trade away a known commodity, for unknown prospects that may or may not be as good as the guy they are trading away? Sounds pretty stupid to me. See what he's looking for as far as salary when the season is over, and go from there. At the very least, you bring up DV and see what he can do before trading away one of the very few power hitters the Sox have. If the salary he is going to command is an issue, get Rios the f*** out of here first and foremost. Trading CQ away will be just one more position the Sox need to fill next season. I just don't get it. because his arbitration value is getting up there, and rios dunn and peavy contracts could be forcing kennys hand, since he may believe he can get similar performance from viciedo+whatever we get in return for CQ

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:22 PM) With the division sucking as much dick as it does and as close as we are to the race, there is really no logical reason to be out. agreed....pains me to say it

Wouldnt surprise me if KW has a certain number in his mind, of how many games out of first we need to be in order to not start dumping salary, but this is good for the Sox right now. If we're competitive over the next 2-3 series, teams might have to give up more talent to get our guys, KW could play the 'well, ive not decided to sell yet' card, vs if we just start bombing out of the race, KW loses most of his hand unless he has teams bidding against each other for our guys

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:11 PM) Great win. It would be absolutely insane to trade Quentin BTW. Insane. not if youre rebuilding

Thornton's getting traded, i'd bet on it

Morel 3-4, he's sitting tomorrow

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:53 PM) No Matt Thornton for the second night in a row for the eighth inning. yeah.... only thing I can think of is he wants to see if Leyland bats a lefthanded hitter in the 9th

will ozzie let santos pitcha full inning this time?

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) The fact that he still kills us, even if he gets on base? Konerko gets thrown out even more obviously in that situation Lets hate for the sake of hating

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:44 PM) Yep, you got to run on that. He was out by a wide margin tho. That was on Ozzie. Elf shouldve been running for Dunn

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) stupid Dunn, hahahaha IBB for Rios what was stupid about it? it was a double, its not like he could stay at 2B

by cracky by cracky

Kenny flat out denied the Peavy aquisition btw

Im pretty sure ive made it clear i wouldnt do this deal unless its part of a fire sale, but that would only come down from Reinsdorf. kenny would never allow himself to believe he failed at his job

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) I don't think Jackson and Thornton off this roster really hurts this team's chances of competing. Jackson has been barely over replacement level this year and Thornton has been the least opportune player on our roster since day 1. Roll the damn dice, take the 24 year old could-be stud, see what you can do from here on out, and come the offseason you still have said could-be stud vs no Jackson, no 35 year old reliever. It's a win-win. i'm telling you, there's zero chance the Sox essentially swap Rasmus for Thornton + Quentin + Reed, unless more salary dump moves are coming damn let's look at it this way maybe the Sox are deciding to rebuild? If the Rasmus move does happen, that's the only logical reasoning for it in my mind

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) Cleveland against the White Sox = White Sox against Twins = Twins against Tigers the renowned triangle theory that seems to always pop up in Boxing, lol

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 08:00 PM) I imagine All-In doesn't mean f***ing retarded. you don't think we can win this division? let's be honest, i've been as negative about our chances as anyone on these boards, negative to the point that i literally got bored of being negative which is why i don't post in the game threads anymore but i didn't honestly think this division was gonna be this bad all year long, the sox could easily back in to the playoffs, and it pains me to say that but it could EASILY happen to hell with f***ing retarded, all-in is all-in. if the Sox had your mentality about having no chances, they wouldn't have waited until this stretch of games to determine what their realistic chances were, they would've started dumping players a month ago at least, and Viciedo would be in RF and Quentin would be gone

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) He's struggling this year, yeah, but the kid had a 133 ops+ at age 23 while playing elite defense in centerfield. what about my post that said 'this year' wasn't clear? quentin right now, this year > colby rasmus QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) ugh. if you can trade carlos quentin for someone of beachy's caliber you do it in a heartbeat because we ALL KNOW how CQ can be god one year and trash the next. you have no idea what you're getting. if you can sell high and get a great arm/whatever else - I say you do it. Especially with us out of contention (which - lets be honest - we are) posted a few days ago, Sox reportedly have 7 teams inquiring about Quentin, none of which are offering top prospects for him. Beachy has not been offered according to Terry Boers Sox 'guy', that he gets his information from

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) Im not sure...who did you have in mind that would trade for him? Rays.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:52 PM) Well obviously Kenny isn't going to trade for Rasmus just to bench him. It would be with another move coming that would send Quentin, Rios, or Pierre somewhere for prospects presumably. that's my point, if quentin is traded, this move is epic fail rasmus IS NOT BETTER THAN CARLOS QUENTIN, RIGHT NOW. All IN implies THIS YEAR.