July 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 10:36 AM) We're going to have to reassess how much war numbers really matter to opposing GM's if we don't get quasi ace value for Q. Even in a down year, he's STILL around 20th in fWAR, making him a TOR starter for all but about 15-18 teams. Bwar is only 1, so huge spread there...whereas he and Vargas are even at fangraphs, bwar has Vargas as 4 and second in AL to Sale, while fWAR they're both exactly 2's. Huge disparity/discrepancy. What matters is what GMs expect going forward, not what happened in the first half. The first half only really matters if GMs believe that Quintana is now a different pitcher than he was a few months ago. He's had an uptick in walk rate, but that's somewhat offset by a similar uptick in strikeout rate. His homerun rate has increased, but his exit velocity, hard hit numbers and flyball rate are pretty much exactly the same as last year so I don't think he lost his homerun suppression ability. His velocity and stuff look pretty much the same. Not sure why you're bringing up Vargas because the Royals aren't selling but the only difference between his first half numbers and his usual numbers is a lack of homeruns, an ability he's never shown before. Although he's given up 5 homeruns in his last 3 starts, so I don't think opposing GMs would buy into his early season homer suppression continuing if he was put on the block. Edited July 10, 20178 yr by OmarComing25
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