SAN FRANCISCO (AP)— The San Francisco Giants declined their options on first baseman J.T. Snow and infielder Eric Young on Monday, and reliever Felix Rodriguez exercised his player option.

I would expect most teams to be dumping guys.

 

the more free agents the better.

 

drives down prices.

 

What becomes critical, then, is scouting.

 

Sox need to troll through the list and find some bargains -- like Loaiza, Ortiz and several others were last winter.

Snow wouldnt be a bad pick-up IMO.... great defensive 1st baseman who had an impressive .387 OBP last year...could fit well here if Konerko was traded. He's also a lefty bat in the lower-end of the line-up.

I would love to see a player like J.T. Snow come here if Paully was traded. He fits here for all the right reasons.

Speaking of bargains, I want the Sox to try and sign Wilson Alvarez.

 

I saw him pitch a couple of games this year in LA and he looked pretty good, I say we have take a chance on him.

 

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When a team declines to pick up a player's option does he become an unrestricted free agent, or does a team have to pick him up for what his option was worth? I'm pretty sure he becomes a UFA therefore teh price for J.T. Snow would depend on many things. We don't need to worry about it if we trade Konerko.

I say sign Snow, if we can, even if we keep Kong. If we could lose either Thomas or Kong, then Snow could start everyday. I am not sure about having a lower part of the lineup 1B though. I would love a guy like Derek Lee.

I say get rid of Konerko and sign Snow.

 

If we trade Konerko for soome good prospects (or 1), I'd be happy. Face it, only desperate teams would be willing to send a starting pitcher or relief pitcher for PK. He was for the most part worthless this year.

I think Spiezio would be a better pick up then Snow. He is 4 years younger, would probably be cheaper, is just as good defensively, is also a left handed bat(switch hitter to be exact), and has been much more consistant over the last couple of years. It is clear that Spiezio would be a better pick up then Snow.

No way on Snow.

 

He hits for basically no power, he's getting older.

 

While he may be a cheaper option, I'd rather keep PK.

I say get rid of Konerko and sign Snow.

 

If we trade Konerko for soome good prospects (or 1), I'd be happy. Face it, only desperate teams would be willing to send a starting pitcher or relief pitcher for PK. He was for the most part worthless this year.

I think you underestimate Konerko's trade value.

No way on Snow.

 

He hits for basically no power, he's getting older.

 

While he may be a cheaper option, I'd rather keep PK.

Not like we're looking for more power anyways, he have a boatload of power on this team.

No way on Snow.

 

He hits for basically no power, he's getting older.

 

While he may be a cheaper option, I'd rather keep PK.

Not like we're looking for more power anyways, he have a boatload of power on this team.

True, but you need your 1B to have some power.

 

Also need someone who's going to stay healthy, seems Snow is hurt a lot.

I say get rid of Konerko and sign Snow.

 

If we trade Konerko for soome good prospects (or 1), I'd be happy. Face it, only desperate teams would be willing to send a starting pitcher or relief pitcher for PK. He was for the most part worthless this year.

I think you underestimate Konerko's trade value.

I do.

 

Look at it this way.

 

If I was a GM of some team, and looking to trade a starting pitcher of mine, who is decent, and the White Sox offered me Paul Konerko for him, I'd say no. Unless the GM is a complete moron and doesn't look at speed, defense, etc, I wouldn't accept.

 

Granted, there's no way of not knowing that PK won't have a great slump again this year. He probably won't. I just don't want that slowness of his on our team.

 

Possibly a team looking for a DH or a 1B that hits for power, and don't mind about speed, then we might be able to get something useful out of them.

No way on Snow.

 

He hits for basically no power, he's getting older.

 

While he may be a cheaper option, I'd rather keep PK.

Not like we're looking for more power anyways, he have a boatload of power on this team.

True, but you need your 1B to have some power.

 

Also need someone who's going to stay healthy, seems Snow is hurt a lot.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind a Roberto Alomar-esque First Basemen.

 

You're right about the injuries though, that could be a downside.

I say get rid of Konerko and sign Snow.

 

If we trade Konerko for soome good prospects (or 1), I'd be happy. Face it, only desperate teams would be willing to send a starting pitcher or relief pitcher for PK. He was for the most part worthless this year.

I think you underestimate Konerko's trade value.

I do.

 

Look at it this way.

 

If I was a GM of some team, and looking to trade a starting pitcher of mine, who is decent, and the White Sox offered me Paul Konerko for him, I'd say no. Unless the GM is a complete moron and doesn't look at speed, defense, etc, I wouldn't accept.

 

Granted, there's no way of not knowing that PK won't have a great slump again this year. He probably won't. I just don't want that slowness of his on our team.

 

Possibly a team looking for a DH or a 1B that hits for power, and don't mind about speed, then we might be able to get something useful out of them.

In a perfect world, I'd get rid of Frank, move Lee to first, DH Konerko and put the LF and CF spots up for grabs. While Carlos isn't a bad left fielder anymore, we could definitely use more speed in the lineup and moving him to the infield wouldn't be a bad move in my opinion. Then you put the CF/LF spots up for grabs in ST and let Rowand, Harris, Borchard and Reed fight for them. Of course this will never happen, but it's just what I think would be best for the Sox. I think if the Sox keep Carlos long-term, you'll see him switched to either DH or 1B.

I say get rid of Konerko and sign Snow.

 

If we trade Konerko for soome good prospects (or 1), I'd be happy. Face it, only desperate teams would be willing to send a starting pitcher or relief pitcher for PK. He was for the most part worthless this year.

I think you underestimate Konerko's trade value.

I do.

 

Look at it this way.

 

If I was a GM of some team, and looking to trade a starting pitcher of mine, who is decent, and the White Sox offered me Paul Konerko for him, I'd say no. Unless the GM is a complete moron and doesn't look at speed, defense, etc, I wouldn't accept.

 

Granted, there's no way of not knowing that PK won't have a great slump again this year. He probably won't. I just don't want that slowness of his on our team.

 

Possibly a team looking for a DH or a 1B that hits for power, and don't mind about speed, then we might be able to get something useful out of them.

In a perfect world, I'd get rid of Frank, move Lee to first, DH Konerko and put the LF and CF spots up for grabs. While Carlos isn't a bad left fielder anymore, we could definitely use more speed in the lineup and moving him to the infield wouldn't be a bad move in my opinion. Then you put the CF/LF spots up for grabs in ST and let Rowand, Harris, Borchard and Reed fight for them. Of course this will never happen, but it's just what I think would be best for the Sox. I think if the Sox keep Carlos long-term, you'll see him switched to either DH or 1B.

I like the way you're thinking here.

They also declined the option on Jose Cruz today.

They also declined the option on Jose Cruz today.

I honestly cannot see why not offering Cruz a decent offer. I would rather have him in our outfield than Rowand or Harris.

I honestly cannot see why not offering Cruz a decent offer. I would rather have him in our outfield than Rowand or Harris.

Rowand and Harris both make around 500K or so, while Cruz would command $2 or $3 mil.

 

I'd rather go cheap and let the young guys play, Jose Cruz is not our future.

Barring injury, Rowand will have a more productive 2004 than Cruz, Jr.

Barring injury, Rowand will have a more productive 2004 than Cruz, Jr.

Yas, I haven't read the Jose Cruz thread yet, but you just wrote a mouthful. I hope you're right, but in 2003 Cruz went 26-1-20, 90 runs, 68 RBI, 366 obp, 414 slugging. His splits were interesting too, hitting over 300 against lefties, 234 against righties, but his power was 7 hr vs lefties and 13 vs righties. I think we could find room for Jose Cruz, but after I read the thread maybe I'll change my mind. If Aaron can top these numbers, terrific.