https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=100&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=14,26&filter=&players=&startdate=&enddate=&page=1_30

and Franco, who would you take over those 3 players to build around, if you could choose JUST ONE?

(Also, don't look to find Andrew Vaughn at this moment in time, haha.)

 

Jose Rodriguez (struggling still), Vladdy Jr., Bichette, Y.Alvarez, Corbin Carroll, Rutschman, Kelenic, Outman, Tatis, Jr., Witt, Jr., Hoerner...some of the more familiar names.

Edited May 23, 20232 yr by caulfield12

So in other words, he’s 4th?

2 hours ago, Leonard Zelig said:

So in other words, he’s 4th?

Would you take Lowe over Franco/Robert, all other things being equal (caveat emptor)?

Quite the thread title...

Expanded for a timeline greater than 2 months.

Position Player fWAR through Age 26 season:

2014-2023

MLB

• M. Trout 42.1; M. Betts 37.1; F. Lindor 30.9; C. Correa 26.9; M. Machado 26.1
• J. Ramirez 25.1; B. Harper 24.9; J. Soto 24.2; K. Bryant 23.7; C. Yelich 23.4

White Sox 

• Y. Moncada 12.8; T. Anderson 10.1; L. Robert 8.7; A. Eaton 7.6; E. Jimenez 5.1
• A. Garcia 4.7; Y. Sanchez 3.7; O. Narvaez 2.6; A. Engel 2.2; C. Gillaspie 1.7

1991-2023

MLB

• M. Trout 63.0; A. Rodriguez 52.8; A. Pujols 45.8; A. Jones 41.8; K. Griffey Jr. 40.5
• M. Betts 37.1; B. Harper 33.3; M. Machado 32.3; D. Wright 31.3; F. Lindor 30.9

White Sox

• F. Thomas 27.6; R. Ventura 20.0; Y. Moncada 12.8; T. Anderson 10.1; A. Rowand 9.3
• M. Ordonez 9.3; L. Robert 8.7; P. Konerko 7.6; A. Eaton 7.6; C. Lee 6.7

1947-2023

MLB

• M. Trout 63.0; M. Mantle 61.3; A. Rodriguez 52.8; K. Griffey Jr. 48.0; A. Pujols 45.8
• E. Matthews 45.2; J. Bench 43.6; H. Aaron 43.5; F. Robinson 43.4; A. Kaline 42.8

White Sox

• F. Thomas 30.0; C. Lemon 22.8; R. Ventura 21.8; L. Aparicio 15.8; N. Fox 14.0
• C. Carrasquel 13.7; H. Baines 13.3; O. Guillen 13.2; Y. Moncada 12.8; R. Hansen 12.3

1871-2023

MLB

• T. Cobb 63.5; M. Trout 63.0; M. Mantle 61.3; R. Hornsby 57.2; J. Foxx 55.9
• M. Ott 53.5; A. Rodriguez 52.8; K. Griffey Jr. 48.0; T. Speaker 48.0; A. Vaughn 47.7

White Sox

• F. Thomas 30.0; C. Lemon 22.8; R. Ventura 21.8; L. Aparicio 15.8; R. Schalk 14.6
• W. Kamm 14.2; N. Fox 14.0; C. Carrasquel 13.7; H. Baines 13.3; O. Guillen 13.2

Chet Lemon really jumps out there... 

42 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Chet Lemon really jumps out there... 

Chet Lemon was awesome, was really sad when he left the White Sox. Not necessarily a HOFer, but a far better candidate than POS Kirby Puckett plus a bunch of Veterans Committee hacks (pun intended) JAWS CF 21st (55.6 bWAR, 46.4 JAWS). 

Put my list up primarily to illustrate the gap between "White Sox Elite Stars" and actual "MLB Elite Starts", both now and in the past. Frank Thomas is the notable exception. Sad that Conor Gillaspie is Top 10 over the past decade. Eloy is "not worth the squeeze".

Edited May 23, 20232 yr by South Side Hit Men