March 10, 200422 yr damn you, if you keep replying to all my postsm, I'll never have as many posts as you I'm hearing a number of hockey commentators saying 1. It was an accident. Looked worse than what it was. He tugged on his sweater a couple times to instigate the fight. The fall wasn't in his control. 2. He'll be back for the playoffs. I only get bits and pieces down here. With a local team now, I hear more coverage but not enough to get a decent feel. The breaking of the neck was accidental sure. But that is a lame ass excuse for what happened. The NHL league office has a long history of LONG suspensions for guys who committ egregious acts. Everyone is up in arms about this, but it has happened before and it will happen again. And when it does happen, the league will be on it. But then again that is what you get for listening to Texas sportcasters talk about hockey
March 10, 200422 yr The breaking of the neck was accidental sure. But that is a lame ass excuse for what happened. The NHL league office has a long history of LONG suspensions for guys who committ egregious acts. Everyone is up in arms about this, but it has happened before and it will happen again. And when it does happen, the league will be on it. But then again that is what you get for listening to Texas sportcasters talk about hockey LOL, they play clips of s*** they think sound good. Thankfully they dropped the local show. The producer actually bribed me with a t-shirt one day to go on the air and help out the host who was bombarded with less informed callers than normal. Believe it or don't; Mike and Mike is an improvement over that local show. Not the hosts fault but a call in show with drunk winter Texans and worse does not make great entertainment.
March 10, 200422 yr Author Think of the TV ratings next time these two teams play. it's exactly what hockey needs I think boxers should have to skate every couple rounds to make boxing better. :fyou the fighting. It isn't necesary. Hit the guy hard with a check. Play good tough hockey, and end the goon circus act. Hockey fans like fighting. PERIOD. Every single time I have been to a game live or watched it on TV when a fight broke out the fans stood and cheered louder than even when goals are scored. Fighting is a part of hockey and always will be. Take that away and you drive away the core of the NHL's fan base. I'd rather direct a :fyou at these casual "I watch maybe 1 or 2 games a season" "fans" who whine about the rough stuff.
March 10, 200422 yr NHL to Announce Bertuzzi Decision Thursday (CP) - Todd Bertuzzi will know his fate Thursday morning. The NHL will announce its decision on the Vancouver Canucks star winger at 9 a.m. EST Thursday with Colin Campbell, the league's vice-president and disciplinarian, and chief legal officer Bill Daly holding a briefing one hour later at the league's Toronto office. A lengthy suspension is expected.
March 10, 200422 yr After watching the clip of the sucker job a few more times it sunk in how really nasty that was. Bertuzzi grabs this guys jersey and clocks him in the face, then this guy moore falls in the ice and his face gets dragged along the ice for like 5 feet or so. Nasty as it sounds Moore deserved it because he cheapshotted Markus Naslund in the previous game. I was laughing for like 15 minutes when I saw this the first time. Your a moron if you think that this guy deserved what Bertuzzi did to him. The hit that he put on Naslund is an every game hit, he didn't get penalized for it, and the league didn't suspend him for it, just because Naslund got hurt, doesn't give Bertuzzi to right to Aggravate Assault him. :dips***
March 10, 200422 yr Hockey fans like fighting. PERIOD. Every single time I have been to a game live or watched it on TV when a fight broke out the fans stood and cheered louder than even when goals are scored. Fighting is a part of hockey and always will be. Take that away and you drive away the core of the NHL's fan base. I'd rather direct a :fyou at these casual "I watch maybe 1 or 2 games a season" "fans" who whine about the rough stuff. And football and baseball fans don't? I guess hockey doesn't attract the main stream sports fan or we should be arguing hockey has it right and we need to have more fighting in baseball, basketball, and football. Or can those sports attract fans without the fighting?
March 10, 200422 yr Fighting is a part of hockey and always will be. Take that away and you drive away the core of the NHL's fan base. Unfortunately, this statement is true. It shouldn't be, it doesn't HAVE to be, but the situation is WAAAY out of control by now. It's probably too late to legislate the goonism out of the game. The problem is, fighting doesn't "police the players" anymore. Fighting leads to a promise of retribution, which leads to another fight, which leads to retribution in kind, and so on and so on. Look at that Philly-Ottawa abomination. WHY did the gloves have to drop EVERY time the puck did? No LOGICAL reason - just one-upsmanship and snowballing goonism. It's the immature machismo that just can't let it go until they've had the "last word". Trouble with that is, BOTH guys ( or both teams ) can't have the "last word". Moore was challenged to a fight earlier in the game. Under the "unwritten rules of hockey", that SHOULD HAVE "policed" the hit on Naslund and settled the situation. That wasn't good enough for Bertuzzi, who had pulled a SlapShot move and publicly stated at the time of Naslund's injury that HE was going to get Moore. The premeditation and cowardice of his actions convince me that Bertuzzi deserves AT LEAST the one-year suspension that Marty McSorley received for his stickwork on Donald Brashear. And trust me, I am not a pacifist or a 2-game-a-year guy. I haven't gone to SlackHawks games, but that's because of the distaste for their disorgan-I-zation. I've been a rabid hockey fan for over 30 years. I just don't think that having a full card of boxing in the middle of a hockey game is entertainment. If fighting was what the defenders claim it to be, I'd have much less of a problem with it. As it is, it makes a mockery of what is the greatest sport of all.
March 11, 200422 yr I've seen the Canucks play the Wild a couple of times--and when I heard this story break I wasn't surprised. The Canucks are one of the more vicious teams I've seen play and they definitely know how to hold a grudge (they and the the Wild have an odd vendetta that has been going since the Wild started...). I do enjoy a good Hockey fight, or baseball fight, or whatever. But there is a line between a five-for-fighting and something that stays on the ice for games, and games and games because that stuff gets too crazy and turns out too be flat out assault.
March 11, 200422 yr If you don't allow fighting, the stick work goes up a lot. This play had nothing to do with fighting though.
March 11, 200422 yr I find it sad that so many hockey fans believe the sport cannot survive without fighting. That fighting makes it interesting. Hey Doubleday, do you know what your sport needs? More fighting. Hey Naismith, do you know what your sport needs? More fighting. People that go to hockey games to watch the fights are no better than Cub and Bull fans who go to games to be seen.
March 11, 200422 yr At a minimum, Bertuzzi should not be allowed to suit up again, till Moore is able to. Then add a suspension on top of that. If Moore is unable to play again, Bertuzzi's career should be over.
March 11, 200422 yr Author Your a moron if you think that this guy deserved what Bertuzzi did to him. The hit that he put on Naslund is an every game hit, he didn't get penalized for it, and the league didn't suspend him for it, just because Naslund got hurt, doesn't give Bertuzzi to right to Aggravate Assault him. :dips*** Don't put words in my mouth. I said the fans like fighting and always will. That's all. What Bertuzzi did wasn't fighting, that was a cheap shot and he will pay the price accordingly.
March 11, 200422 yr Don't put words in my mouth. I said the fans like fighting and always will. That's all. What Bertuzzi did wasn't fighting, that was a cheap shot and he will pay the price accordingly. Go back and read your quote, I guess you were misquoted. You're the one that said he deserved it and laughed when you saw it. :dips***
March 11, 200422 yr Author Go back and read your quote, I guess you were misquoted. You're the one that said he deserved it and laughed when you saw it. :dips*** Yeah it was a cheap shot and yeah he should be punished but that doesn't mean I didnt think it was funny. :fyou
March 11, 200422 yr Yeah it was a cheap shot and yeah he should be punished but that doesn't mean I didnt think it was funny. :fyou Then why did you say you laughed for 15 mintues about it?
March 11, 200422 yr Author Then why did you say you laughed for 15 mintues about it? Maybe you misunderstood. that doesn't mean I didnt think it was funny That means that the circumstances behind the situation did not prevent me from laughing my ass off when I saw it happen. I hope that clarifies for you.
March 11, 200422 yr Author Sentence is passed down from the NHL. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1756628
March 11, 200422 yr Sentence is passed down from the NHL. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1756628 Appropriate punishment. On a side note, I was glad to see Bertuzzi had an honest heartfelt apology for the guy.
March 11, 200422 yr I feel it was a very good punishment. Plus not to mention they left it open ended so if they needed to punish him more they could. I also was glad to see he gave a heartfelt apology, although I don't fully believe him for I am sure he meant to hurt Moore just not injure him as he did.
March 11, 200422 yr I also was glad to see he gave a heartfelt apology, although I don't fully believe him for I am sure he meant to hurt Moore just not injure him as he did. I agree about Bertuzzi's appology. It is a fair punishment handed down.
March 11, 200422 yr Appropriate punishment. On a side note, I was glad to see Bertuzzi had an honest heartfelt apology for the guy. Maybe. Or is he crying for $500,000 and no playoffs? :fyou That standard should be used in workplaces all over the world.
March 11, 200422 yr I believe Bertuzzi is sorry about the severity of Moore's injury, but I'm not convinced that he's sorry about going after him. He still used terms like "I'm sorry about what happened" instead of being sorry for "my actions" or "what I did". It's another example of the Celebrity Apology, where they apologize "if anyone was offended" instead of apologizing for what they did or said that may have been the REASON someone was offended. I personally thought that the suspension should have been extended into the beginning of next season ( the next season the NHL plays, anyway ). This amounts to a 16-to-25 game suspension in all likelihood - 12 remaining regular season games + however deep into the playoffs the Canucks should advance. I thought there should have been another 10 or 15 games tacked on to the next season.
March 11, 200422 yr I personally thought that the suspension should have been extended into the beginning of next season ( the next season the NHL plays, anyway ). This amounts to a 16-to-25 game suspension in all likelihood - 12 remaining regular season games + however deep into the playoffs the Canucks should advance. I thought there should have been another 10 or 15 games tacked on to the next season. They leave it open for this. He could face more games off.
March 11, 200422 yr They leave it open for this. He could face more games off. Chances are if there is a season next year, he will have a suspension of some sort.
March 11, 200422 yr Author Maybe. Or is he crying for $500,000 and no playoffs? :fyou That standard should be used in workplaces all over the world. It's probably the money he's sad about. Now he cant afford to have his place decked out in time for the next season of MTV's "Cribs".
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