November 29, 200421 yr Let's not lose sight of the fact that the Red Sox "concerted effort" to get rid of him did not begin until Nomar turned down a 4-year/$60 million contract. Obviously when that offer was made, they didn't think of Nomar as so much of a cancer. I don't know Nomar personally and have no real connections to the Red Sox clubhouse, but it seems to me that Nomar becoming a cancer wasn't an issue (or didn't exist at all) until he turned down a contract offer and the Red Sox tried to trade for ARod, which would have meant trading Nomar. When that became public, the relationship between Nomar and the Red Sox went downhill fast. Granted, Nomar was an idiot for turning down that kind of money, but my attitude might just change a bit too once it has become public my team doesn't want me anymore. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Nomar would be a problem in a different situation.
November 29, 200421 yr You won't hear it either. It is another Red Sox hatchet job, just like they did to Everett. Thank god we end up with Carla, then maybe Nomar.. OO JOY can't wait!
November 29, 200421 yr I remember reading that there was talk that Nomar milked his injury last season, and didn't rush back to play as fast as he could have. That and him saying he was hurt he found out through the media he was close to being traded are the only spats I can remember with him. FWIW.
November 29, 200421 yr Let's not lose sight of the fact that the Red Sox "concerted effort" to get rid of him did not begin until Nomar turned down a 4-year/$60 million contract. Obviously when that offer was made, they didn't think of Nomar as so much of a cancer. I don't know Nomar personally and have no real connections to the Red Sox clubhouse, but it seems to me that Nomar becoming a cancer wasn't an issue (or didn't exist at all) until he turned down a contract offer and the Red Sox tried to trade for ARod, which would have meant trading Nomar. When that became public, the relationship between Nomar and the Red Sox went downhill fast. Granted, Nomar was an idiot for turning down that kind of money, but my attitude might just change a bit too once it has become public my team doesn't want me anymore. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Nomar would be a problem in a different situation. Good insight. It has got to be a wake up call when the only organization you have ever known basically tries to get rid of you.
November 29, 200421 yr Good insight. It has got to be a wake up call when the only organization you have ever known basically tries to get rid of you. Could that work for Maggs as well?
November 29, 200421 yr Could that work for Maggs as well? One big difference, is Nomar never stood in front of the media and lied, or called his organization a bunch of liars, while he was the one in fact lying. Or had a secret surgery arranged in another country to hide the procedure.... You could compare the attitudes maybe, but the actions are completely different.
November 29, 200421 yr Wasn't all that after the fact of the Sox trying to get rid of Maggs? Not that I am defending him, I think he is a total liar as well but same premise I believe with Maggs and Nomar...but yet Nomar gets the rap as a bad guy and Maggs skates on it.
November 29, 200421 yr Wasn't all that after the fact of the Sox trying to get rid of Maggs? Not that I am defending him, I think he is a total liar as well but same premise I believe with Maggs and Nomar...but yet Nomar gets the rap as a bad guy and Maggs skates on it. I honestly believe that is a difference between organizational philosophies and their relationship to the local media. The Red Sox trash their big name players when they look to leave, and the Boston media feeds off of it. In Chicago, the Sox get blamed for everything, so even if Maggs is a nutcase, the Sox get bashed for not resigning him, wereas in Boston, all of his escapades would be front page news, and everyone would hate him.
November 29, 200421 yr One big difference, is Nomar never stood in front of the media and lied, or called his organization a bunch of liars, while he was the one in fact lying. Or had a secret surgery arranged in another country to hide the procedure.... You could compare the attitudes maybe, but the actions are completely different. No, but there were a LOT of whispers that Nomar was riding his injury ( due to hurt feelings that they tried to deal him over the winter ) when he could have returned to action. The fact is, Nomar tried a LOT harder to play on the Achilles AFTER he was traded than he had with Boston.
November 30, 200421 yr No, but there were a LOT of whispers that Nomar was riding his injury ( due to hurt feelings that they tried to deal him over the winter ) when he could have returned to action. The fact is, Nomar tried a LOT harder to play on the Achilles AFTER he was traded than he had with Boston. So that makes him 'a cancer in the clubhouse'? I still don't get it.
November 30, 200421 yr So that makes him 'a cancer in the clubhouse'? I still don't get it. Some felt he wasn't there for his teammates....... that he wasn't giving it his all, while they were duing a pennant race...... That in itself can definitely fit the definition of a cancer.
November 30, 200421 yr No, but there were a LOT of whispers that Nomar was riding his injury ( due to hurt feelings that they tried to deal him over the winter ) when he could have returned to action. The fact is, Nomar tried a LOT harder to play on the Achilles AFTER he was traded than he had with Boston. AFTER he was traded, the injury was probably closer to being healed. Time is a factor in those things.
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