CWSGuy406 Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 I'm sorry, but Jack Skille is not going to fall to the 20's... I'll look at mock drafts when I see Red Line Report or The Hockey News or TSN release one -- not FSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Hopefully the hawks can sign a big name tomorrow to bring more fans to the u.c. Would have liked to have seen crosby go to the blackhawks but my second fav. team will do fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 03:08 AM) Hopefully the hawks can sign a big name tomorrow to bring more fans to the u.c. Would have liked to have seen crosby go to the blackhawks but my second fav. team will do fine with me.  Chelios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) Chelios? That's been rumored, but from what I've heard the Hawks need 2 top 6 forwards, especially a #1 center. Pavol Demitra seems to be a popular pick, and the Hawks have a lot of good young quality D-men already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 03:25 AM) That's been rumored, but from what I've heard the Hawks need 2 top 6 forwards, especially a #1 center. Pavol Demitra seems to be a popular pick, and the Hawks have a lot of good young quality D-men already. Â I agree with that. Chelios would be a signing that would just try and bring fans to the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 03:35 AM) I agree with that. Chelios would be a signing that would just try and bring fans to the games. Â Yep -- really wouldn't help them win games one bit. Â If he came cheap, and would be willing to get #5/#6 d-man minutes, that's fine. I think he could be a good mentor for young kids coming up like Keith, Babchuk, Seabrook, etc etc. If he wants more minutes/lots of cash? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) Yep -- really wouldn't help them win games one bit.  If he came cheap, and would be willing to get #5/#6 d-man minutes, that's fine. I think he could be a good mentor for young kids coming up like Keith, Babchuk, Seabrook, etc etc. If he wants more minutes/lots of cash? No thanks. Keith since you seem to be the resident Hawks expert around here, what is our D corps going to end up being ATM, and is Cam Barker a chance of filling a spot? So far I have Vandermeer, Cullimore, McCarthy, Keith, Seabrook and the 6th spot wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I believe Bryan Berard will also be back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) plus they have the coolest jerseys, lol  SWEATERS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/team/ Â Here ya go DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) Yep -- really wouldn't help them win games one bit.  If he came cheap, and would be willing to get #5/#6 d-man minutes, that's fine. I think he could be a good mentor for young kids coming up like Keith, Babchuk, Seabrook, etc etc. If he wants more minutes/lots of cash? No thanks.   :puke Come on Keith, you know Cheli cant play anymore, no matter what it's not worth it. Investing in a "mentor." By the way, LP is reupping this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:46 PM) Keith since you seem to be the resident Hawks expert around here, what is our D corps going to end up being ATM, and is Cam Barker a chance of filling a spot? So far I have Vandermeer, Cullimore, McCarthy, Keith, Seabrook and the 6th spot wide open.  The D corps will look like this  Vandermeer/Berard Cullimore/ Mac Robidas/ (insert Rookie)  That's what I think will get thrown out there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Cheli is finished and needs to concentrate on his chili business more than hockey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) The D corps will look like this Vandermeer/Berard Cullimore/ Mac Robidas/ (insert Rookie)  That's what I think will get thrown out there... I would bet that Lasse Kukkonen will likely get a look as long as the Hawks don't sign a veteran dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) I believe Bryan Berard will also be back... Oh ya, forgot about him, he'll be needed to make sure our power play is at a higher level than brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 DBaho, I assume that Vandermeer/McCarthy/Berard/Cullimore are locks, and then it'll be a battle between Robidas, Duncan Keith (rave reviews from both Tallon and Yawney -- if he made the team, I doubt Robidas would make it too. IIRC, he's undersized), Anton Babchuk, and even Brent Seabrook. The folks who watch the Norfolk games said that Seabrook came up and immediately became the Ads best defenseman. It's a longshot, but it could happen. Â Ideally, you have those top four, along with a #1-#2 defenseman brought in -- as Tallon and co. hinted at. Then, you have competition between Robidas/Keith/Bab/Seabrook for the final spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I think I remember Kukkonen leaving to go back to Europe while still being under Hawk control. He doesn't seem to be able to keep pace with the North American game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Ok more mock's, top 30's etc.  TSN.ca Top 30 7. Carey Price TEAM: Tri-City Americans (WHL) POSITION: Goaltender HEIGHT: 6'3 WEIGHT: 212 lbs. BORN: 08/16/87 - Williams, B.C. NOTES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Represented Canada at the Under-18 World Cup last August...played for Team Pacific at the World Under 17 Hockey Championships in December...backstopped Canada to a silver medal at the 2005 World Under-18 Championship. (Photo: Getty Images) BOB MCKENZIE'S TAKE: The Tri-City Americans goaltender is widely heralded as the top netminder available in this year's draft, but it's not necessarily unanimous. Odds are Price will be the first goalie selected, but depending upon the order of selection, it's tough to say how early a goalie might go in this draft. Team preference aside, though, scouts generally agree Price is a top-10 talent who has what it takes to be a No. 1 stopper in the NHL. His performance at the U-18 championships in April was only fair, but the WHL workhorse showed his worth game in and game out for Tri-Cities.  Red Line Report 7. Bobby Ryan TEAM: Owen Sound Attack (OHL) POSITION: Right Wing HEIGHT: 6'0 WEIGHT: 210 lbs. BORN: 03/17/87 - Cherry Hill, N.J. NOTES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Led Attack with 1.44 points per game and was +30...tallied 128 regular season points over 127 OHL games...Ryan and the Attack went on a string of 20 games with only one loss in 2004-2005...invited to U.S. summer evaluation camp for 2006 World Junior Hockey Championship. (Photo: Getty Images) BOB MCKENZIE'S TAKE: This player's "life" story has been well documented. The son of a father who so severely beat his mother that the father went to prison for five years, but not before the entire family moved to California and changed the family name from Stevenson to Ryan to avoid the authorities. All that aside, the Owen Sound Attack forward is a big, strong power forward type who can make plays and score goals with a flourish. Scouts debate whether he's a bad skater or just an awkward skater, but he moves well enough to be rated a sure-fire top 5 pick who could go as high as No. 2. Lots of speculation as to how hard Philadelphia Flyer GM Bob Clarke, a close friend of the family, will try to move into a spot to draft Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I want them to draft me.... Im consistently the leading scorer in my mens league... Â that being said... i really want Brule to fall to 7 but all signs point to no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) Out of them, I would want Babbs up. He has an amazing shot, and I would like to see how he plays when he sees some real ice time. If the Hawks sign another big D man(To be honest I don't really know whats out there) and just a 20 G a year winger, they could cause some trouble in the leauge. Â Tony, Babs is unlikely at this point because he was REAL disappointing in Norfolk last year. He didnt show the ability to play consistently good D. But who knows when it gets to camp time. Â And DB, I dont think the Hawks would take a goalie in the first round. They have a decent stockpile with Anderson and Leighton and Crawford. Also in the system is Michael Brodeur but I think he's on his way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 So, for all people like Keith or kap, what are the biggest names on the market, regardless of position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(farmteam @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:19 AM) So, for all people like Keith or kap, what are the biggest names on the market, regardless of position? Â We'll find out a little later today. Contract buyouts started this morning so teams like Toronto will be axing some pricey veterans and more big names will be out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Another interesting piece for those few Hawk fans out there. When Mike Smith got fired his scouts went with him. Including top scout Marshall Johnston. He was just picked up by the 'Canes yesterday and is their scouting director thing now. They just got a good one, I liked him for some reason and got to meet him at a prospects camp a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Tony, Babs is unlikely at this point because he was REAL disappointing in Norfolk last year. He didnt show the ability to play consistently good D. But who knows when it gets to camp time. And DB, I dont think the Hawks would take a goalie in the first round. They have a decent stockpile with Anderson and Leighton and Crawford. Also in the system is Michael Brodeur but I think he's on his way out. If they don't decide to bring back Thibault which is still very possible, then maybe they will want a goalie in the draft, but they should take best player available regardless. Some people rate Crawford very highly however, and think he'll be better than Leighton or Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I would actually be kind of surprised if the Hawks picked a goalie...they have a few good ones in the system already. They need to focus on Dmen or a power forward type of player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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