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The 2003 World Champion Marlins Lost 5 in a row from 8-19-03 - 8-23-03

In that stretch the lost 8 of 9. They finished 14-14 in August. We all know who their 3rd base coach was. Maybe that's why he is not losing it?

 

 

The 2002 World Champion Anaheim Angels lost 6 of 7 9-18-02 - 9-25-02 (right before their title run in the Playoffs.)

 

 

The 2001 World Champion Arizona Diamondbacks had a record of 10-11 in September that year.

 

 

Every team has it's ups and downs. Does everyone believe that we will struggle for another month and a half? I don't. I was pestamistic at times too. That is normal during a week of losing. We just have to look at the overall picture. I say let Houston , Oakland, Boston, NY, STL, Min, Cle get hot now. I don't think they will stay hot for 2 straight months. I guarantee every one of those teams will hit a down time before the season ends.

 

 

Having Cleveland and Minnesota within 10 games from us will keep us on our toes in september. I like having 16 meaningful games in a row between the Twins and Indians. I want our guys working their way into the playoffs. We have seen what WC teams do in the playoffs when they have to fight off 3 or 4 teams to make it in.

 

I still know what we are capable of. We did not lose 4 months of winning in 1 week of losing.

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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:10 PM)
Didn't all of those teams have at least one key offensive player having a career year?

All I know, is we won From April to July with our current team. When we were hot not many teams would have beat us. We were hot on numerous occasions this year. We can get hot In October.

 

Who is to Say, Paulie, Dye and Arow can't heat up in the playoffs? Like I said. We were fine for 4 months with our current team.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 12:12 AM)
All I know, is we won From April to July with our current team. When we were hot not many teams would have beat us. We were hot on numerous occasions this year. We can get hot In October.

 

Who is to Say, Paulie, Dye and Arow can't heat up in the playoffs?  Like I said. We were fine for 4 months with our current team.

 

In the first half of the year, the Indians team was hitting like s***, and the Sox were getting a ton of clutch hits. Now, the White Sox are hitting like s***, and the Indians are tearing the cover off the ball with a plethora of recent clutch hits. The problem is that if that continues the rest of the season, the Indians have a very good chance of surpassing the White Sox.

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Reason for Pessimism:

 

Indians just scored more runs in the first inning tonight than the Sox have scored in a long, long time. They're up 3-1 in the first, and the Twins are winning 2-0. The Twins are on the verge of making up 7 games in the standings in 7 games.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:16 PM)
In the first half of the year, the Indians team was hitting like s***, and the Sox were getting a ton of clutch hits.  Now, the White Sox are hitting like s***, and the Indians are tearing the cover off the ball with a plethora of recent clutch hits.  The problem is that if that continues the rest of the season, the Indians have a very good chance of surpassing the White Sox.

Though I agree with you, I do feel another reversal of fortunes can be in store in September. I felt our team was for real for a long period of time this year. So I can see a strong finish. I am more concerned about our finish then how we do In August.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:12 PM)
All I know, is we won From April to July with our current team. When we were hot not many teams would have beat us. We were hot on numerous occasions this year. We can get hot In October.

 

Who is to Say, Paulie, Dye and Arow can't heat up in the playoffs?  Like I said. We were fine for 4 months with our current team.

 

We were beating bad to slightly above average teams. We're not beating playoff teams.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:25 PM)
We did not beat any playoff teams from April to July? I find that hard to believe.

 

Have you seen out record against teams like Boston, A's, Angels, and now the Yankees if you consider them a playoff team? We even played the Angels when they had no Vlad and weren't very good.

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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:27 PM)
Have you seen out record against teams like Boston, A's, Angels, and now the Yankees if you consider them a playoff team?  We even played the Angels when they had no Vlad and weren't very good.

Don't forget , The Indians would be a playoff team too if it weren't for their record aganst us. we are 2-4 vs Boston. It could easily be 3-4 if it wern't for a rain out. We handed them a couple of games that could have went our way. New York has causgt us at our low point of the season. I thouth we looked just fine last week against them. ( I am not anticipating playing at our level going into the playoffs. I will leave anaheim out of the argument because we just don't know how much Vlad would have impacted our W-L record vs Anaheim. I do know also we have been in just about every game this year. If we get beat in the playoffs it will be close.

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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:38 PM)
I'll be just as disappointed if we just barely lose in the first round as I would be if we got our asses handed to us.

Agreed, I'm just making a point that we have as good chance as anyone because most of our games are close.

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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:10 PM)
Didn't all of those teams have at least one key offensive player having a career year?

 

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 07:22 PM)
Reason for Pessimism:

 

Indians just scored more runs in the first inning tonight than the Sox have scored in a long, long time.  They're up 3-1 in the first, and the Twins are winning 2-0.  The Twins are on the verge of making up 7 games in the standings in 7 games.

 

 

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