Texsox Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 thisclosetogether? The Brian Wilson comments inspired me to post this topic. It seems that many people or genius in their fields are also almost insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 That is very true. I have a perfect example that I'll tell you all about later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 (edited) I personally wouldn't call Brian Wilson a genius, but I think most geniuses were probably considered insane. Writing pop songs just doesn't qualify you as being a genius, in my humble opinion. He MIGHT be insane, though..... EDITED to add that I just noticed the qualifier "in their fields", but I hold to my opinion regardless. I'm stubborn that way.... Edited November 21, 2005 by The Critic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 If not insane, many are borderline idiot savaants. Didn't Einstein have a closet full of the same suit because he didn't want to bother making decisions when he was getting dressed in the morning? And if not insane or savaant, most peopel considered to be geniuses are are also considered to have been 'out there' psychologocally. Zappa was a genius, pure and simple. And he wrote more than pop songs so just maybe he'll get the Critic Seal of Approval. And he was far from insane, but he was always 'out there.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) If not insane, many are borderline idiot savaants. Didn't Einstein have a closet full of the same suit because he didn't want to bother making decisions when he was getting dressed in the morning? And if not insane or savaant, most peopel considered to be geniuses are are also considered to have been 'out there' psychologocally. Zappa was a genius, pure and simple. And he wrote more than pop songs so just maybe he'll get the Critic Seal of Approval. And he was far from insane, but he was always 'out there.' Sorry, I really don't mean to be a prick about this ( although that's a character trait I can't seem to suppress ), but I guess I just have a hard time slapping the genius tag on songwriters. Or most types of entertainers, for that matter. I'm certainly not saying I'm right ( I never really do, I just spew opinions ), but entertainment seems disposable to me so I guess it doesn't register that highly with me. I love music and appreciate the talent involved, though. That's gotta count for something.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 From a guy who writes and plays music on a daily basis: Zappa = Genius. That guy was just incredible. I don't expect any other opinion though out of somebody who always wished he could, but couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) From a guy who writes and plays music on a daily basis: Zappa = Genius. That guy was just incredible. I don't expect any other opinion though out of somebody who always wished he could, but couldn't. Oh, so now we're pulling rank, are we? Well, since I can't build a clock, I guess I hope no one asks me what time it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) I personally wouldn't call Brian Wilson a genius, but I think most geniuses were probably considered insane. Writing pop songs just doesn't qualify you as being a genius, in my humble opinion. He MIGHT be insane, though..... EDITED to add that I just noticed the qualifier "in their fields", but I hold to my opinion regardless. I'm stubborn that way.... Critic, Brian Wilson is a genius producer. Pet Sounds, Smile - the layering is amazing for its time, and Wilson is deaf in one ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Critic, Brian Wilson is a genius producer. Pet Sounds, Smile - the layering is amazing for its time, and Wilson is deaf in one ear. Rex, I respect his accomplishments completely. The fact that he's deaf in one ear makes what he's done more impressive. I just don't feel comfortable referring to any entertainer as a genius. I'm not trying to dismiss anything he or Zappa or John Tesh has done, I just don't personally feel right using the term "genius" to refer to an entertainer. I'm sure it's just yet another personality quirk of mine.....throw it on the pile.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 01:56 PM) Rex, I respect his accomplishments completely. The fact that he's deaf in one ear makes what he's done more impressive. I just don't feel comfortable referring to any entertainer as a genius. I'm not trying to dismiss anything he or Zappa or John Tesh has done, I just don't personally feel right using the term "genius" to refer to an entertainer. I'm sure it's just yet another personality quirk of mine.....throw it on the pile.... DON'T FRIGGIN' MESH WITH TESH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) DON'T FRIGGIN' MESH WITH TESH! Oh, I'm sorry, was that in green? Oh, I'm sorry, was THAT in green too?? Oh, I'm sorry, was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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