Steff Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 When will people learn that these people can NOT be rehabilitated.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4454486.stm Glitter 'had sex with girl, 12' An arrest warrant was issued for Gary Glitter last week Ex-glam rock star Gary Glitter has been accused of having sex with two girls, one aged 12, police in Vietnam said. Police said the girls, 12 and 18, said in police interviews they had sex with Glitter, 61, at his Vung Tau home. There are conflicting reports as to whether the second girl had turned 18 - the legal age of consent in Vietnam. Glitter, whose real name is Paul Francis Gadd, has not been charged and remains in custody. If convicted he could be jailed for up to 12 years. A Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "We are aware of the arrest of a British national and consular support is being provided." Under Vietnamese law, sexual contact with a minor carries varying degrees of penalty, depending on the charge. 'Lewd acts' The 1970s rocker was held on suspicion of "lewd acts" with children after an arrest warrant was issued last week. He was stopped at Ho Chi Minh City airport on Saturday by an official who recognised him from media coverage. "Obscene acts with a child" can lead to 12 years imprisonment while child rape carries the maximum penalty of death before a firing squad. A police officer in Vung Tua said: "Having sex with a 12-year-old girl, regardless of whether he had her consent, is still considered child rape under Vietnamese law." Police would not confirm whether either of the girls claimed they were paid for sex. British consular officials visited Glitter in Vung Tau, the coastal town where he has lived for six months, following his arrest. A Vietnamese foreign ministry spokesman said after Glitter's arrest that authorities had interviewed a 15-year-old girl they had found at his home. British officials earlier confirmed that Glitter would have access to a lawyer. They described the Vietnamese authorities as very co-operative. Vung Tua police said on Monday they were continuing to investigate the case and are to question the singer further. Glitter was found guilty in the UK in 1999 of possessing child pornography and served two months in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 DUH NUHNUH NUHNUH.... GUILTY!!!! DUH NUHNUH NUH!! NUH!!! DUH NUHNUH NUHNUH.... GUILTY!!!! DUH NUHNUH NUH!! NUH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) DUH NUHNUH NUHNUH.... GUILTY!!!! DUH NUHNUH NUH!! NUH!!! DUH NUHNUH NUHNUH.... GUILTY!!!! DUH NUHNUH NUH!! NUH!!! Beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I guess there is a chance he could face a firing squad. No joke there. Just find it nice to see a country that gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) I guess there is a chance he could face a firing squad. No joke there. Just find it nice to see a country that gets it. An extreme viewpoint, some would say. :rolly But he should be locked up for life just because of that hairdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 01:43 PM) An extreme viewpoint, some would say. :rolly But he should be locked up for life just because of that hairdo. Might be extreme, but IMO, anybody who harms a child deserves to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 02:44 PM) Might be extreme, but IMO, anybody who harms a child deserves to die. Not Glitter's case, but here's the hypothetical: Underage girl lies about her age and has consentual sex with you in a country where statutory rape is punishible by death. You raped an underage girl according to their laws, regardless of what she said about her age. Do you deserve to die? You can't undo execution, as an earlier thread today by Tex made soberingly clear. Edited November 21, 2005 by FlaSoxxJim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Every case needs to be tried and every case needs to be judged. If the person has had a record of it, then yes, death. Joseph Smith had better die. I agree with Steff, the people can't be rehabilitated If that is what they are into, then they can't change. I do not want any of my money going to keep those people alive. I could probably pull the trigger on a person like Smith or any other pedophile, and still sleep well at night. So I have no problem knowing my tax dollars might go to a noose for somebody who gets a kick out of hurting children. In fact, I might sleep better knowing there is one less piece of s*** in the world, and knowing that piece of s*** will never walk the streets again due to making parole by some f***ed up chance. If there is no doubt, kill 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Suggested Comeback Album Title: Statutory Rape Part II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I suprised it was 12 year old girl not 12 year old boy. either way he is probably going to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Not Glitter's case, but here's the hypothetical: Underage girl lies about her age and has consentual sex with you in a country where statutory rape is punishible by death. You raped an underage girl according to their laws, regardless of what she said about her age. Do you deserve to die? You can't undo execution, as an earlier thread today by Tex made soberingly clear. He was already found guilty of having child porn in 1999. There should not have been an opportunity for him to have any more victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) He was already found guilty of having child porn in 1999. There should not have been an opportunity for him to have any more victims. And he had to go clear to Vietnam for this? That says something too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) He was already found guilty of having child porn in 1999. There should not have been an opportunity for him to have any more victims. I agree with that completely. Being against the death penalty as much for it's capacity to result in the ultimate error as on principal, I merely bristled at the firing squad possibility. That said, there is nothing in this world I despise more than pedophiles and child abusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ what Jim said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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