FlaSoxxJim Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ May 18, 2006 -> 12:00 PM) I applaud Bush and Co. for their honesty in this nomination. He's a military guy and they aren't hiding it. No they certainly are not. And it was very shrewd to have Hayden testify to the Intelligence Committee yesterday as well. It blunts some of the questions that he is going to face during the confirmation hearing, and it also puts a big honking "Classified" stamp on everything the Committee heard yesterday. That means that many questions that yesterday would have been speculative and fair game are now off the table. The one question I want (but don't expect will be) asked is, was there some incarnation of the warrantless domestic spying operation in existence prior to 9-11. Early reports suggersed there was. If so, it would undercut all of the smoke and mirror overtures about Congress authorizing the program with the AUMF because it would have preceeded it. Not that I expect we would get an answer to the question if it was asked either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Flaxx, if the reporters are leaking legit classified information, you don't see a problem with trying to stop that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Of course there are a couple answers Classified secrets? No Classified illegal government activites? Yes Finding non-classified sources and intimidating them into silence? A big no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ May 18, 2006 -> 04:32 PM) Of course there are a couple answers Classified secrets? No Classified illegal government activites? Yes Finding non-classified sources and intimidating them into silence? A big no. ^^^^^ That pretty much covers it, except to say that abusing a provision of the Patriot Act to get at journo phone records in order to do the intimidating is also something we should all take issue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 interesting...leahy co-wrote the legislation that authorized these tappings. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/...5324.shtml?s=ic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ May 11, 2006 -> 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/11/nsa...s.ap/index.html Disturbing. Seriously. This government is getting away with far too much in this surveillance. It needs to stop. Isn't it funny? The terrorists supposedly hate us for our freedom, yet our own government is invading our privacy. :rolly Edited May 21, 2006 by santo=dorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 21, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) Isn't it funny? The terrorists supposedly hate us for our freedom, yet our own government is invading our privacy. :rolly its the job of the courts to keep the legislative and/or executive power in check. the bill passed in congress and was even co-written by leahy, a democrat. until a court says it is illegal, the fact of the matter is that the wiretapping is not illegal. let me know when a court orders the NSA to stop tapping domestic calls. Edited May 21, 2006 by samclemens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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