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[southsider2k5]

I hate forwards.

 

Hi, all--I checked this against Snopes, and it's for real, and very sobering. Take care. LSH

 

 

PIERRE REHOV and the "Contre-Champs" project

 

Vive la France is not a choice chant for most Jews who have sadly

witnessed that country's recurrent and blatant antisemitism. Still, it

is hard not to love the seductive France that intoxicates the heart and

mind with fantasies of romance-it is harder yet if you're a woman with

an affinity for men who hold the door open, who rise when you excuse

yourself from the table, who make you feel like you're the most

beautiful woman in the room, and who, in an age of feminism, still

appreciate the feminine. Pierre Rehov is one such Frenchman. But his

intrigue goes beyond the stereotypical charms. For although there are

many who would love to love him, there are even more who would love to

kill him.

 

For Pierre Rehov, life only took on true meaning when he began putting

it at risk. He had been a movie producer, a novelist, a journalist and

a lawyer. But none of those professions satisfied his searching soul.

In moments of deep personal introspection he questioned himself, "Who

and what am I really?" For him, the answer came when he turned on the

news on October 6, 2000, and saw the images of the shooting of Mohammed

al-Dura, the 12 year-old Palestinian boy, whom Israel was summarily

accused of targeting. "I was in shock," says Rehov, who rarely watches

the pro-Arab French broadcasts. "In this case, I knew as a producer

that there was something very fishy about the images. The angles just

weren't right."

 

The day after al-Dura was shot, there was a pro-Palestinian rally in

the streets of Paris, where the participants screamed, "Death to the

Jews." Rehov was reminded of one century ago when the exact same

antisemitic scene played itself out on the streets of Paris prompted by

the Alfred Dreyfus trial. Rehov's instincts told him that the death of

Mohammed al-Dura was another blood libel against the Jews. "I knew that

I was no Herzl, but I had to do something," Rehov says.

 

Pierre Rehov was born in Algeria where his ancestors had lived for

almost 500 years. He and his family left for France in 1961 with

250,000 other Jewish refugees who were expelled from the newly

Muslim-ruled territory. Rehov was 6 years old when he found out that he

was Jewish-after seeing graffiti on the wall of his building where he

and his family lived. The graffiti read, "The French in the boat; the

Arabs in a castle; and the Jews to be exterminated."

 

Living in Algeria, the young boy knew very well what "French" and

"Arab" meant, but the other word was new to him. Turning to his father,

who was a well liked and respected dentist, he asked, "What is a Jew?"

His father explained that Jews were a very different group of people

who were always treated badly by the rest of the population and a

people who would always have troubles. He then told little Pierre that

he was a Jew. It was not long after Rehov told his classmates that he

was Jewish that they began to call him un sale juif-a dirty Jew. Other

kids would also praise the works of Hitler.

 

If only words were the worst type of hate that Rehov experienced, he

would have gotten over it. But as a child, in Algeria, he observed

hatred in its most evil manifestation-terrorism. He'll never forget the

day he and his father were about to enter a café when a grenade, tossed

by Muslim extremists rebelling against French rule, exploded. He saw

people exiting drenched in blood and without limbs, some people didn't

exit at all. His father grabbed him in his arms and they ran. Another

explosive incident happened at his own school where 11 of his

classmates were killed. "I saw the worst images of my life as a child,"

Rehov says.

 

So at 9 years old, Rehov, his mother, and younger brother left Algeria

to join his father already in France, all hoping for a better and

calmer life. But the French refugees were hardly met with open arms by

the native French who displayed great antipathy toward the influx of

Algerian immigrants. "It was ironic that we were kicked out of Algeria

by the Muslims because we were French, yet we were treated so poorly by

the French themselves."

 

"In those days nobody said 'Palestinians,'" Rehov recalls. "They were

called 'Arabs.' They only later became "Palestinians" as a political

ploy against Israel." He remembers telling the story of Napoleon who,

upon passing a synagogue during the Ninth of Av (a day of mourning),

looked inside and saw Jews sitting on the floor and weeping. When he

inquired further, he was told the Jews were mourning over the

destruction of their Holy Temple. "How long ago did this occur?"

Napoleon asked. "About 1,500 years ago," he was told. "In that case

there is no doubt that their Temple will be rebuilt," Napoleon said. "A

people capable of crying for so long over its destroyed temple and land

will eventually find its way home."

 

Rehov feels that Jews have cried long enough, and now that they have

their homeland once again they must do whatever it takes to protect it.

"I believe that Israel is the miracle of the 20th century," Rehov says.

"It is also the result of the worse injustice that has ever been

visited upon a people. No other people but the Jews have been

exterminated, non-stop, for 20 centuries." He cautions fellow Jews by

reminding them how 470,000 Jews were deported from the Warsaw Ghetto

before the remaining the 30,000 realized what was happening and decided

to put up a resistance. "How many Jews are going to be killed before we

wake up and decide to fight back?" Rehov questions passionately. "I

don't want to be among the last 30,000 to start fighting. I'm starting

to fight right now."

 

And so after the shooting of Mohamed al-Dura and the antisemitic

rallies that ensued, Pierre Rehov took his fight off the streets of

Paris to the courts of France. He rallied Jewish organizations in

France to join him in a lawsuit against the French government for its

defamation of the State of Israel. Rehov, who also holds an Israeli

passport, was then off to the Holy Land to investigate the circumstance

surrounding the tragic, yet suspicious death of al-Dura. His own

research, an IDF investigation, and the sources he interviewed,

revealed that the trajectory of Israeli gunfire and the position of the

bullet holes were inconsistent. Other inconsistencies were enumerated

as well. Al-Dura was buried before any autopsy could be performed.

Rehov's investigations, however, had satisfied his suspicion that it

was the Palestinians themselves who killed al-Dura for propaganda

purposes. "It is not so hard to believe from some of these extremists

who indoctrinate their children to be martyrs and suicide bombers," he

says. When Rehov returned to France, he found out that the defamation

case had been dismissed after only six weeks, with no explanation.

Rehov says it usually takes two years for a case to be dismissed in

France.

 

But Rehov's resolve could not be dismissed. With his French passport,

Arabic features, and a digital recorder, he went into the territories

(which are forbidden to Israeli citizens) posing as a French tourist

and began an undercover investigation of what is really going on behind

the scenes. He has thus far produced six documentaries from the

"tourist attractions" he visited in the territories: A War of Images,

which reveals shocking images of incitement displayed on Yasser

Arafat's Palestinian Television network; The Trojan Horse, which

betrays Arafat's true intentions and shows rare footage of Palestinian

leaders advocating the eradication of the Jewish state and the

extermination of the Jewish people, and his film The Holy Land:

Christians in Peril, which exposes the true story behind the Church of

Nativity confrontation and reveals the dangers for Christians living

under Islamic rule, he then filmed The Road to Jenin, that shows there

was no massacre in Jenin, as some Palestinians claimed. Silent Exodus,

which tells the little known story of the plight of the million Jews

who had to leave the Muslim countries their families had lived in for

centuries. Hostages of Hatred, that gives all the real data about the

Palestinian refugees, a question that is not as well known as it might

be imagined.

 

On July 15, MSNBC's "Connected" program discussed the July 7th London

attacks.

 

One of the guests was Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed

six documentaries on the intifada by going undercover in the

Palestinian areas. Pierre 's upcoming film, "Suicide Killers," is

based on interviews that he conducted with the families of suicide

bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it.

Pierre agreed to a request for a Q&A interview here about his work on

the new film.

 

Q - What inspired you to produce "Suicide Killers," your seventh film?

 

A - I started working with victims of suicide attacks to make a film on

PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) when I became fascinated with the

personalities of those who had committed those crimes, as they were

described again and again by their victims. Especially the fact that

suicide bombers are all smiling one second before they blow themselves

up.

 

Q - Why is this film especially important?

 

A - People don't understand the devastating culture behind this

unbelievable phenomenon. My film is not politically correct because it

addresses the real problem, showing the real face of Islam. It points

the finger against a culture of hatred in which the uneducated are

brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to

kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God whose word, as

transmitted by other men, has become their only certitude.

 

Q - What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know

that other experts do not know?

 

A - I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the level

of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a dramatic

event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior. In this

case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in

pure frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love,

tenderness or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation

between men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward

women, who are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of

anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no

coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated

subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot

satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil.

 

Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on Earth will

finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids,

killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes

their only solution.

 

Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their

families and survivors of suicide bombings?

 

A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing

with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own

logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so

convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure

craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say,

is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my

son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her

was a greater source of pride than if he

had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.

 

This system of values works completely backwards since their

interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are

facing people whose only dream, only achievement goal is to fulfill

what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a shaheed or the

family of a shaheed.

 

They don't see the innocent being killed, they only see the impure that

they have to destroy.

 

Q - You say suicide bombers experience a moment of absolute power,

beyond punishment. Is death the ultimate power?

 

A - Not death as an end, but death as a door opener to the after life.

They are seeking the reward that God has promised them. They work for

God, the ultimate authority, above all human laws. They therefore

experience this single delusional second of absolute

power, where nothing bad can ever happen to them, since they become

God's sword.

 

Q - Is there a suicide bomber personality profile? Describe the

psychopathology.

 

A - Generally kids between 15 and 25 bearing a lot of complexes,

generally inferiority complexes. They must have been fed with

religion. They usually have a lack of developed personality. Usually

they are impressionable idealists. In the western world they would

easily have become drug addicts, but not criminals. Interestingly,

they are not criminals since they don't see good and evil the same way

that we do. If they had been raised in an Occidental culture, they

would have hated violence. But they constantly battle

against their own death anxiety. The only solution to this deep-seated

pathology is to be willing to die and be rewarded in the afterlife in

Paradise .

 

Q - Are suicide bombers principally motivated by religious conviction?

 

A - Yes, it is their only conviction. They don't act to gain a

territory or to find freedom or even dignity. They only follow Allah,

the supreme judge, and what He tells them to do.

 

Q - Do all Muslims interpret jihad and martyrdom in the same way?

 

A - All Muslim believers believe that, ultimately, Islam will prevail

on Earth. They believe this is the only true religion and there is no

room, in their mind, for interpretation. The main difference between

moderate Muslims and extremists is that moderate Muslims don't think

they will see the absolute victory of Islam during their lifetime,

therefore they respect

other beliefs. The extremists believe that the fulfillment of the

Prophecy of Islam and ruling the entire world as described in the

Koran, is for today. Each victory of Bin Laden convinces 20 million

moderate Muslims to become extremists.

 

Q - Describe the culture that manufactures suicide bombers.

 

A - Oppression, lack of freedom, brain washing, organized poverty,

placing God in charge of daily life, total separation between men and

women, forbidding sex, giving women no power whatsoever, and placing

men in charge of family honor, which is mainly connected to their

women's behavior.

 

Q - What socio-economic forces support the perpetuation of suicide

bombings?

 

A - Muslim charity is usually a cover for supporting terrorist

organizations. But one has also to look at countries like Pakistan ,

Saudi Arabia and Iran , which are also supporting the same

organizations through different networks. The ironic thing in the case

of Palestinian suicide bombers is that most of the money comes through

financial support from the Occidental world, donated to a culture that

utterly hates and rejects the West (mainly symbolized by Israel ).

 

Q - Is there a financial support network for the families of the

suicide bombers? If so, who is paying them and how does that affect

the decision?

 

A - There used to be a financial incentive in the days of Saddam

Hussein ($25,000 per family) and Yasser Arafat (smaller amounts), but

these days are gone. It is a mistake to believe that these families

would sacrifice their children for money. Although, the children

themselves who are very attached to their families, might find in this

financial support another reason to become suicide bombers. It is like

buying a life insurance policy and then committing suicide.

 

Q - Why are so many suicide bombers young men?

 

A - As discussed above, libido is paramount. Also ego, because this is

a sure way to become a hero. The shaheeds are the cowboys or the

firemen of Islam. Shaheed is a positively reinforced value in this

culture. And what kid has never dreamed of becoming a

cowboy or a fireman?

 

Q - What role does the U.N. play in the terrorist equation?

 

A - The U.N. is in the hands of Arab countries and third world or

ex-communist countries. Their hands are tied. The U.N. has condemned

Israel more than any other country in the world, including the regime

of Castro, Idi Amin or Kaddahfi. By behaving this way, the U.N. leaves

a door open by not openly condemning terrorist organizations. In

addition, through UNRWA, the U.N. is directly tied to terror

organizations such as Hamas, representing 65 percent of their apparatus

in the so-called Palestinian refugee camps. As a support to Arab

countries, the U.N. has maintained Palestinians in camps with the hope

to "return" into Israel for more than 50 years, therefore making it

impossible to settle those populations, which still live in deplorable

conditions. Four hundred million dollars are spent every year, mainly

financed by U.S. taxes, to support 23,000 employees of UNRWA, many of

whom belong to terrorist organizations (see Congressman Eric Cantor on

this subject, and in my film "Hostages of Hatred").

 

Q - You say that a suicide bomber is a 'stupid bomb and a smart bomb'

simultaneously. Explain what you mean.

 

A - Unlike an electronic device, a suicide killer has until the last

second the capacity to change his mind. In reality, he is nothing but

a platform representing interests which are not his, but he doesn't

know it.

 

Q - How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and

terrorism in general?

 

A - Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this culture

is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form

of Naziism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the

1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the

German people.

 

Q - Are these men traveling outside their native areas in large

numbers? Based on your research, would you predict that we are

beginning to see a new wave of suicide bombings outside the Middle East

?

 

A - Every successful terror attack is considered a victory by the

radical Islamists. Everywhere Islam expands there is regional conflict.

Right now, there are thousands of candidates for martyrdom lining up

in training camps in Bosnia , Afghanistan and Pakistan .

Inside Europe , hundreds of illegal mosques are preparing the next step

of brainwashing to lost young men who cannot find a satisfying identity

in the Occidental world. Israel is much more prepared for this than

the rest of the world will ever be. Yes, there will be more suicide

killings in Europe and the U.S. Sadly, this is only the beginning.

 

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[Texsox]

Side note: I really dislike the phrase suicide bomber. Murders, murder bombers, bombers, etc work better. While they are committing suicide that isn't their intent. It gives a bad name to those who end their own lives for their own reasons without murdering anyone in the process.

[Jenksismyhero]

Very good read.

 

 

I liked this the best:

 

Q - How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and

terrorism in general?

 

A - Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this culture

is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form

of Naziism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the

1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the

German people.

 

 

Have we ever thought about substituting bombs for porn? Maybe that'll solve the problem? We'll let the region 'release' their frustration.

[juddling]

It gives a bad name to those who end their own lives for their own reasons without murdering anyone in the process.

 

 

Somehow i think that the successful ones dont really care what you call them

[KansasSoxFan]

Side note: I really dislike the phrase suicide bomber. Murders, murder bombers, bombers, etc work better. While they are committing suicide that isn't their intent. It gives a bad name to those who end their own lives for their own reasons without murdering anyone in the process.

 

Fox News likes to use the term "homicide bomber." I don't like this term (or ones like it) because it's confusing to me. In my mind, a homicide bomber would be someone like the Unabomber -- he plants a bomb and then runs away before it explodes. At least "suicide bomber" tells me how the dirty deed was done. Still, I see what you are saying. Maybe "kamikaze bomber" would be better?