Obama is on CNN talking about the 20 billion in Wall Street bonuses sounding all pissed off (well as close to pissed off as he ever sounds).

Obama is on CNN talking about the 20 billion in Wall Street bonuses sounding all pissed off (well as close to pissed off as he ever sounds).

Well BO, then maybe, just maybe, y'all should have thought about that before you passed the bill giving them $350 billion no-strings-attached. You were in the Senate at the time. You were the nominee at the time.

 

(Although, on second thought, maybe having a President who actually reads the morning newspapers like the Wall Street Journal, and then actually reacts to their content, maybe there is something to be said for that).

Well BO, then maybe, just maybe, y'all should have thought about that before you passed the bill giving them $350 billion no-strings-attached. You were in the Senate at the time. You were the nominee at the time.

 

(Although, on second thought, maybe having a President who actually reads the morning newspapers like the Wall Street Journal, and then actually reacts to their content, maybe there is something to be said for that).

 

Just give them another trillion in bailouts. That'll fix it.

Obama is on CNN talking about the 20 billion in Wall Street bonuses sounding all pissed off (well as close to pissed off as he ever sounds).

Nice act job. He doesn't give a s***.

 

Obama is on CNN talking about the 20 billion in Wall Street bonuses sounding all pissed off (well as close to pissed off as he ever sounds).

Why should he care? He just handed out 820 billion in bonuses.

Why should he care? He just handed out 820 billion in bonuses.

It was administered horribly. That's partially Congress's fault for not attaching more strings, and the Paulson crew for not knowing what the hell they were doing.

It was administered horribly. That's partially Congress's fault for not attaching more strings, and the Paulson crew for not knowing what the hell they were doing.

 

Then again maybe Wall Street should just start calling it a stimulus plan. You seem to be able to get away with anything if you do it in that vein. How about the Dow Jones Industrial Stimulus plan! With all of the retirement money out there, we should be able to get a couple of trillion dollars for that right, because it is definitely too big to fail!

Then again maybe Wall Street should just start calling it a stimulus plan. You seem to be able to get away with anything if you do it in that vein. How about the Dow Jones Industrial Stimulus plan! With all of the retirement money out there, we should be able to get a couple of trillion dollars for that right, because it is definitely too big to fail!

I'm going to go run up a couple billion dollars of debt actually, are you on board?

I'm going to go run up a couple billion dollars of debt actually, are you on board?

 

if the government throws me a few $ million, i promise i'll spend it all and that should help the economy.

I'm going to go run up a couple billion dollars of debt actually, are you on board?

 

As long as there are stock options and a big buyout clause, I will be your CEO.

It was administered horribly. That's partially Congress's fault for not attaching more strings, and the Paulson crew for not knowing what the hell they were doing.

Perhaps the President should take note of the fact that 2 weeks ago, the House passed, on a near party line vote again (guess which party was opposed) a major retroactive overhaul of the TARP program which would include a mandate that the funds be withdrawn from any company giving out bonuses above a certain level. That legislation has not even been taken up by the Senate.

 

So, Mr. President, Senator Dodd (who the President tasked with finding a way to fix this problem)...the legislation is already written and past the other house of Congress. Care to put some backing behind your words?

Well, new admin. still fudging numbers. Good to see, consistency is good. GDP, a joke. Not good even though "they" say it beat expectations.

 

GDP = consumption + gross investment + (exports-imports).

 

Durable goods were down 22.4%, non-durables down 7.1%.

 

Exports down 19.7%(Global Depression?)

 

Why the upside surprise?.......Federal Spending rose 5.8%

 

Another positive "surprise" was that inventories rose. Just what we need, right, more stuff on the shelves going unsold in a Recssion/Depression.

Why should he care? He just handed out 820 billion in bonuses.

 

 

My tally has Obama at 1.170 trillion so far. Remember he got the second 350 from the TARP. Not bad for ten days work.

Edited January 30, 200917 yr by Cknolls

Well, new admin. still fudging numbers. Good to see, consistency is good. GDP, a joke. Not good even though "they" say it beat expectations.

 

GDP = consumption + gross investment + (exports-imports).

 

Durable goods were down 22.4%, non-durables down 7.1%.

 

Exports down 19.7%(Global Depression?)

 

Why the upside surprise?.......Federal Spending rose 5.8%

 

Another positive "surprise" was that inventories rose. Just what we need, right, more stuff on the shelves going unsold in a Recssion/Depression.

 

Exports are down because of the large dollar rally in the last quarter.

I am the one to blame for the Housing mess.

 

 

 

Barney Frank and CO.

 

 

How in the world these great minds get away with this?

 

Are they still in Congress?

 

 

What a fraud!

The USA economy has endure a dozen a so recessions, a Drepession, several wars including two major wars. Do not bet against the USA. I am putting my money in the USA stocks. Talk to me in 5 years. Once the Financials become the leader again, the next Bull Market will begin.

Exports are down because of the large dollar rally in the last quarter.

 

 

Yes. The European were not lowering rates while we were. Now, they are playing catch up. They failed to act quicker.

Once the Financials become the leader again, the next Bull Market will begin.

What does this even mean?

What does this even mean?

That we need another bubble, because thanks to the offshoring of manufacturing and the destruction of the middle class, financial wizardry allowing people to dump their losses on to the government while taking the profits home with them is the only thing that is capable of running the country. It's how the finance industry grew to somehow be well over 10% of the economy

That we need another bubble, because thanks to the offshoring of manufacturing and the destruction of the middle class, financial wizardry allowing people to dump their losses on to the government while taking the profits home with them is the only thing that is capable of running the country. It's how the finance industry grew to somehow be well over 10% of the economy

 

I guess all the blame goes against the banks. The regulators are not to blame nor the people. I said let the banks fails. Let the people forclosure their homes. Let the car makers fail. This is Capitalism not Socialism. The survival of the fittest.

 

What does this even mean?

 

 

Without the leadership of the banks, the Stock Market won't go anywhere.

Without the leadership of the banks, the Stock Market won't go anywhere.

The Stock Market is not the economy.

Time for some more good news:

 

According to Bloomberg:

 

Four banks in the Federal Home Loan Bank system have suspened dividends: Pittsburgh, Seattle San Francisco and now Atlanta. Contagion is spreading.

 

Crisis is growing. A bailout will do nothing but kill Treasuries.

 

 

Last night Moody's downgraded 1893 Alt-A tranches. Many went from AAA to CCC. Alt-A is likely our next BIG problem, which could pose a problem for WFC, who inhaled $130 billion worth of Alt-A with the WB purchase.

Time for some more good news:

 

According to Bloomberg:

 

Four banks in the Federal Home Loan Bank system have suspened dividends: Pittsburgh, Seattle San Francisco and now Atlanta. Contagion is spreading.

 

Crisis is growing. A bailout will do nothing but kill Treasuries.

 

 

Last night Moody's downgraded 1893 Alt-A tranches. Many went from AAA to CCC. Alt-A is likely our next BIG problem, which could pose a problem for WFC, who inhaled $130 billion worth of Alt-A with the WB purchase.

I don't think this is what I'd call a "contagion" anymore. I think we passed that point. What we are seeing now is the deepening of symptoms as a result of the disease. Still plenty of rough spots ahead though.

 

Watch the Transport Index. If it can break the 2900-50 level it will crater. No support for 1000 points.