NorthSideSox72 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Linky Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 He was meant to be in the Manny deal IIRC. If you only had to give up a mid - level prospect, I'd be for it, especially with Boone being very inconsistent lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) He was meant to be in the Manny deal IIRC. If you only had to give up a mid - level prospect, I'd be for it, especially with Boone being very inconsistent lately. I don't know the guy, but looking at his career, I'd rather stick with Boone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) Linky Discuss. He mentions both the Red and White Sox, but then says "the sox" might end up with Grabow. Good reporting there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 David O'Brien names the Red Sox, Cardinals, Rays, Tigers, and White Sox parties interested in Will Ohman. But the Sox might end up with John Grabow, and the Tigers may be content with Kyle Farnsworth as their relief addition. Grabow may also be on the Rays' radar. Which "Sox" are they talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) I don't know the guy, but looking at his career, I'd rather stick with Boone. I remember the NY media speculated about getting him before they got Marte and said it would only take a mid - level prospect most likely. I take that with a grain of salt, but if the price was right and with Masset gone, we need another reliever IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) He mentions both the Red and White Sox, but then says "the sox" might end up with Grabow. Good reporting there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Getting Grabow would be the type of move that puts good closure on the Whitesox Trade Deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) I remember the NY media speculated about getting him before they got Marte and said it would only take a mid - level prospect most likely. I take that with a grain of salt, but if the price was right and with Masset gone, we need another reliever IMHO. I know I'm in the minority here, but, assuming Linebrink is healthy and will really be back soon, then I don't see the Sox needing relief help. A pen of Jenks-Linebrink-Dotel-Thornton-Logan-Wassermann-Carrasco is, IMO, better than most teams run out there. If you can upgrade one of those last three, great, but I don't see Grabow as any significant upgrade to Logan (which is who he'd be replacing, I assume). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) I know I'm in the minority here, but, assuming Linebrink is healthy and will really be back soon, then I don't see the Sox needing relief help. A pen of Jenks-Linebrink-Dotel-Thornton-Logan-Wassermann-Carrasco is, IMO, better than most teams run out there. If you can upgrade one of those last three, great, but I don't see Grabow as any significant upgrade to Logan (which is who he'd be replacing, I assume). Can you trust Carrasco to continue to be effective as a long - man, and for Wasserman to be the 1 inning ROOGY though? I think we can upgrade there. It may not be a factor come playoff time if we make it, but it may help us win an extra game or 2 by upgrading that spot right there. Whether Grabow is the best fit or not though, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:02 PM) Can you trust Carrasco to continue to be effective as a long - man, and for Wasserman to be the 1 inning ROOGY though? I think we can upgrade there. It may not be a factor come playoff time if we make it, but it may help us win an extra game or 2 by upgrading that spot right there. Whether Grabow is the best fit or not though, I don't know. Both of them could be upgraded of course. But I don't consider a Grabow-level guy to be that. Carrasco is the long man - there aren't really a lot of truly great long relievers out there, because its the bottom rung job. If you can find one, great, but they are rare. And Wassermann isn't really a ROOGY anymore anyway, now that he has a change. He showed that the other night against the Twins. He's a 1 to 2 inning reliever who induces groundballs, gives the hitters a different look, but isn't dominant. There are certainly better relievers out there, but, look at it in terms of value. How much would a relief pitcher that is a significant upgrade there cost you? And aren't most of those that are that good, doing setup or closing work? Would they be happy being the 4th guy on the totem poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:45 PM) He mentions both the Red and White Sox, but then says "the sox" might end up with Grabow. Good reporting there... QUOTE (YASNY @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) Which "Sox" are they talking about here? It's the media. You know which ones that they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I'm ready to go on a full fledged assault on the media in regards to the "Sox" debate. I know Yas has mentioned it before, and I've mentioned it several times, but honestly, truthfully, and even brutally, name me the only team that mentions only "Sox" on their uniform. In the same regard, name me the only "Sox" team that mentions the color on their uniform; in the same regard, name me the other "Sox" team and let me know when and how they mention their color ever on their jerseys. It's absolute f***ing bulls*** that the Red Sox are the "Sox" when, in fact, they have "Red Sox" on their uniform, and the White Sox rarely, if ever, have "White Sox" on their uniform, and roughly 99% of the time have JUST "SOX" on their uniform and their hat. Apparently the east coast bias is stupid and bulls*** and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and whatever the f*** else. I hope the Sox win it again this year and the next year and hopefully Fenway is blown to bits and the Red Sox become the Boston ESPN's so then there is only one Sox. Extreme? Sure, I'm drunk. It seems reasonable enough though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 05:00 AM) I'm ready to go on a full fledged assault on the media in regards to the "Sox" debate. I know Yas has mentioned it before, and I've mentioned it several times, but honestly, truthfully, and even brutally, name me the only team that mentions only "Sox" on their uniform. In the same regard, name me the only "Sox" team that mentions the color on their uniform; in the same regard, name me the other "Sox" team and let me know when and how they mention their color ever on their jerseys. It's absolute f***ing bulls*** that the Red Sox are the "Sox" when, in fact, they have "Red Sox" on their uniform, and the White Sox rarely, if ever, have "White Sox" on their uniform, and roughly 99% of the time have JUST "SOX" on their uniform and their hat. Apparently the east coast bias is stupid and bulls*** and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and whatever the f*** else. I hope the Sox win it again this year and the next year and hopefully Fenway is blown to bits and the Red Sox become the Boston ESPN's so then there is only one Sox. Extreme? Sure, I'm drunk. It seems reasonable enough though. Simply put ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) I'm ready to go on a full fledged assault on the media in regards to the "Sox" debate. I know Yas has mentioned it before, and I've mentioned it several times, but honestly, truthfully, and even brutally, name me the only team that mentions only "Sox" on their uniform. In the same regard, name me the only "Sox" team that mentions the color on their uniform; in the same regard, name me the other "Sox" team and let me know when and how they mention their color ever on their jerseys. It's absolute f***ing bulls*** that the Red Sox are the "Sox" when, in fact, they have "Red Sox" on their uniform, and the White Sox rarely, if ever, have "White Sox" on their uniform, and roughly 99% of the time have JUST "SOX" on their uniform and their hat. Apparently the east coast bias is stupid and bulls*** and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and (adjective) and whatever the f*** else. I hope the Sox win it again this year and the next year and hopefully Fenway is blown to bits and the Red Sox become the Boston ESPN's so then there is only one Sox. Extreme? Sure, I'm drunk. It seems reasonable enough though. your easily my favorite poster!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 01:23 PM) your easily my favorite poster!! Yeah, well, I still take credit for pointing that out to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) Yeah, well, I still take credit for pointing that out to the board. damn right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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