whitesoxbrian Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Not sure if this is the right place, but I was wondering if somebody could list the top 5-10 prospects who could enter the 2009 draft or might enter the draft. I'd love to see who the Nationals and other sorry teams try to rebuild around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Alex White RHP, UNC and Dustin Ackley 1B/OF UNC will both go high in the 1st round. Alex has a legit chance to be the top pick in the draft, he's nasty. Mychal Givens, a SS/RHP from Plant HS, FLA has a chance to be the first high schooler taken. Matt Purke, LHP, Klein HS, Texas is probably the top lefty in the draft right now. Ryan Jackson, SS, Miami should be taken as high or higher than Jemille Weeks. That's all I know right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Stephen Strasburg (sp?) of San Diego State (or just SD) is pretty much the top guy. but he is advised by Boras and his demands will probably be the highest ever. The kid is just wicked, he throws up to 99 MPH and located and that's not even his best pitch. He is the top talent. Another guy to watch for is Kyle Gibson of Missouri. If he gets his head on straight he can be downright nasty too. Low to mid 90s with sinking action and very projectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 I was reading about some catcher named Stassi, who would come out of high school in CA. He was ranked like #20 on some site- I wonder if he'd still be there when we picked for the 1st time?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:12 PM) Beat me to it. There are already fantasy discussions about this guy, being a keeper option in dynasty leagues. Supposed to have insane stuff. i think strausburg struck out like 23 batters in a game earlier this year or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 03:20 AM) I was reading about some catcher named Stassi, who would come out of high school in CA. He was ranked like #20 on some site- I wonder if he'd still be there when we picked for the 1st time?? He's on SaberScoutings "High School Hot 30" at no. 6; "6. Max Stassi, C School & Hometown: Yuba City HS; Yuba City, CA Specs: 5′10, 190, Bats R, Throws R Skinny: A polished, all-around backstop that lacks the frame and power scouts look for behind the plate, but shows solid gap pop, an above-average bat, and is an above-average defender with a plus arm. Stassi has really raised his profile on the showcase circuit into a legitimate top 2 rounder. UCLA commit." http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/07/27/20...hot30/#more-285 Sounds decent and we definately need some more catching depth. Edited August 26, 2008 by Ozzie Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Doesn't he sound like AJP? "Above average bat" "Lacks frame" (although AJ is a bit tall) "Average power" "Above average D with a plus arm" (although I'd say AJ's arm is solid at best) If we could get him with like the 30th pick or one of the 4 we get from Crede and OC leaving, that'd be nice. Edited August 26, 2008 by whitesoxbrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) Doesn't he sound like AJP? "Above average bat" "Lacks frame" (although AJ is a bit tall) "Average power" "Above average D with a plus arm" (although I'd say AJ's arm is solid at best) If we could get him with like the 30th pick or one of the 4 we get from Crede and OC leaving, that'd be nice. 3 at the most, possibly 2. (if Crede isn't even offered Arb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) 3 at the most, possibly 2. (if Crede isn't even offered Arb) Don't be surprised if we sign Joe to another 1 year contract. He'll need to stay healthy for a full season before he can cash in on a long-term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 01:39 PM) 3 at the most, possibly 2. (if Crede isn't even offered Arb) They'll likely offer Crede arbitration. Fields isn't an option and the Sox wouldn't have a problem, imo, if Crede accepted a one year deal. I'd expect 3, possibly 4 (depending on what happens with Griffey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) They'll likely offer Crede arbitration. Fields isn't an option and the Sox wouldn't have a problem, imo, if Crede accepted a one year deal. I'd expect 3, possibly 4 (depending on what happens with Griffey). Barring another surgery for someone, there's not a player on the Sox who hits FA that we shouldn't offer Arb to. The only one we should have to even think about is Griffey, but if he's still type B at the end of the season, then I'd take him back on a 1 year deal or let him walk for a sandwich pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 09:28 PM) Doesn't he sound like AJP? "Above average bat" "Lacks frame" (although AJ is a bit tall) "Average power" "Above average D with a plus arm" (although I'd say AJ's arm is solid at best) If we could get him with like the 30th pick or one of the 4 we get from Crede and OC leaving, that'd be nice. Will we get anything for Joe? I thought they chose the type A/B free agents based on their previous two season and since Crede missed most of last year I didn't think we were getting anything for him. Also anyone know what happens with Griffey, by declining his option do we lose the ability to offer him arb.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) Will we get anything for Joe? I thought they chose the type A/B free agents based on their previous two season and since Crede missed most of last year I didn't think we were getting anything for him. Also anyone know what happens with Griffey, by declining his option do we lose the ability to offer him arb.? Crede will be a Type B free agent, he's done enough this year to earn that rating. If he's offered arb the Sox will get a sandwich pick. Griffey will also be a Type B free agent, the Sox will decline his option but offer him arbitration (yes, you can do that) which he will hopefully decline and the Sox will get a sandwich pick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 So... We could get 1 pick for OC, 1 for Joe, 1 for Griffey, and the 1st and 2nd rounder we will already have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 07:31 PM) So... We could get 1 pick for OC, 1 for Joe, 1 for Griffey, and the 1st and 2nd rounder we will already have? Uribe has a shot at being a type B also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Does the 2nd round start with the same order as the 1st round goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 09:31 PM) So... We could get 1 pick for OC, 1 for Joe, 1 for Griffey, and the 1st and 2nd rounder we will already have? Cabrera: 2 Thome: 2 (if his option somehow does not vest) Crede: 1 Griffey: 1 (outside shot at 2, he did qualify as a type A for '06/'07) Uribe: 1 A shot at 3 first rounders and 6 sandwich/second rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 10:00 PM) Does the 2nd round start with the same order as the 1st round goes? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Thanks, Kalapse! You're the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) Crede will be a Type B free agent, he's done enough this year to earn that rating. If he's offered arb the Sox will get a sandwich pick. Griffey will also be a Type B free agent, the Sox will decline his option but offer him arbitration (yes, you can do that) which he will hopefully decline and the Sox will get a sandwich pick for him. Is Cinci going to fork over the cash to buyout Jr's option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) Is Cinci going to fork over the cash to buyout Jr's option? Sources said the Reds and White Sox will essentially "split" what remains on Griffey's contract this season, along with the cost of his $4 million buyout for 2009. The Reds had a $16.5 million club option for 2009 on Griffey, but Chicago did not have to exercise the option as part of the deal. Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 This Tigers Blog believes they have figured out the Elias Sports Bureau's formula for calculating Type A and B players. Toby Hall: 25.714, 33.334 points below the lowest Type B Ken Griffey JR: 68.816 TYPE B, 2.5 points below the lowest Type A Jim Thome: 66.000 TYPE B, 5.316 points below the lowest Type A Orlando Cabrera: 84.127 TYPE A, 13.379 points above the highest Type B Juan Uribe: 55.556, .938 points below the lowest Type B Joe Crede: 38.776, 17.718 points below the lowest Type B So assuming this thing is accurate Jim Thome is only a Type B, Juan Uribe is just below Type B and Joe Crede is going to net us nothing. Terrific Cabrera: 2 Thome: 1 Griffey: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) This Tigers Blog believes they have figured out the Elias Sports Bureau's formula for calculating Type A and B players. Toby Hall: 25.714, 33.334 points below the lowest Type B Ken Griffey JR: 68.816 TYPE B, 2.5 points below the lowest Type A Jim Thome: 66.000 TYPE B, 5.316 points below the lowest Type A Orlando Cabrera: 84.127 TYPE A, 13.379 points above the highest Type B Juan Uribe: 55.556, .938 points below the lowest Type B Joe Crede: 38.776, 17.718 points below the lowest Type B So assuming this thing is accurate Jim Thome is only a Type B, Juan Uribe is just below Type B and Joe Crede is going to net us nothing. Terrific Cabrera: 2 Thome: 1 Griffey: 1 This is a new system for for FAs right? The old was disposed of like two years ago? If that's the case, I liked the old one better because it seemed everyone was a type A free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) This Tigers Blog believes they have figured out the Elias Sports Bureau's formula for calculating Type A and B players. Toby Hall: 25.714, 33.334 points below the lowest Type B Ken Griffey JR: 68.816 TYPE B, 2.5 points below the lowest Type A Jim Thome: 66.000 TYPE B, 5.316 points below the lowest Type A Orlando Cabrera: 84.127 TYPE A, 13.379 points above the highest Type B Juan Uribe: 55.556, .938 points below the lowest Type B Joe Crede: 38.776, 17.718 points below the lowest Type B So assuming this thing is accurate Jim Thome is only a Type B, Juan Uribe is just below Type B and Joe Crede is going to net us nothing. Terrific Cabrera: 2 Thome: 1 Griffey: 1 Yeah, but what are the chances that this guy is actually correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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