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With all of the Flowers trade talk, ..... just wondering

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A thought has occurred to me (that doesn't happen very often) that with all of the talk of trading Flowers, among others, to acguire an established bat; how far away are our other minor league catchers.

 

Miguel Gonzales

Josh Phegley

Kevin Dubler

any others

 

I hope that I got the names right. If we can get 2 more years out of A. J., are any of these guys on track to replace him by say the 2012 season?

Edited by balfanman

Add Kevin Dubler to your list. Very bad results, but great promise. I'd wager that Phegley's two years away at the least, with Gonzalez coming in at about 3 years.

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 11:06 AM)
Add Kevin Dubler to your list. Very bad results, but great promise. I'd wager that Phegley's two years away at the least, with Gonzalez coming in at about 3 years.

Dubler added, Thank you, I knew that I was forgetting someone.

Tyler Flowers shouldn't be traded.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 10:55 AM)
Tyler Flowers shouldn't be traded.

Agreed, he could be starting in 2011, no need to trade him.

If the trade makes this team a lot better, ok...but we better also be willing to overpay to keep AJ for another 2-3 years as an aging catcher.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 10:06 AM)
Add Kevin Dubler to your list. Very bad results, but great promise. I'd wager that Phegley's two years away at the least, with Gonzalez coming in at about 3 years.

I've been following Dubler, he's an AAP for me. He's had two consecutive very disappointing seasons. He's dug himself a serious hole. If he doesn't look pretty damn good in A ball in 2010, I think he's done.

 

 

If Flowers actually does project as a Catcher at the Major League level, we'd be fools to deal him. However, if he looks more like a DH/1B candidate, I'd make him available to help the team make a run next year.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 12:02 PM)
If Flowers actually does project as a Catcher at the Major League level, we'd be fools to deal him. However, if he looks more like a DH/1B candidate, I'd make him available to help the team make a run next year.

 

The Sox don't exactly have a problem with poor defensive catchers. Flowers is going to remain behind the plate.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 12:02 PM)
If Flowers actually does project as a Catcher at the Major League level, we'd be fools to deal him. However, if he looks more like a DH/1B candidate, I'd make him available to help the team make a run next year.

He improve a ton behind the plate this year, he is staying at catcher, and should be good offensively and avg defensively.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 01:02 PM)
If Flowers actually does project as a Catcher at the Major League level, we'd be fools to deal him. However, if he looks more like a DH/1B candidate, I'd make him available to help the team make a run next year.

He was voted at the best defensive catcher in his league by the coaches, I think he'll stick.

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QUOTE (League @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 02:20 PM)
He was voted at the best defensive catcher in his league by the coaches, I think he'll stick.

 

Hopefully these aren't the same guys who vote for the Gold Glove award in the majors! :unsure:

I'm going to be "that guy" on the board, but I've been crazy busy, is the Flowers speculation just people on the board throwing around ideas or have there been reports?

Flowers is just speculation right now, but his name is going to come up a bunch in rumors over the offseason anyway. Whether there will be any validity to those is another matter because the Sox love him.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 10:02 AM)
with all of the talk of trading Flowers...

 

Where has there been talk about trading him?

 

 

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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 03:39 PM)
Where has there been talk about trading him?

 

Just look in all of the Gonzales / Votto / Halladay / etc. threads

QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 09:58 PM)
Just look in all of the Gonzales / Votto / Halladay / etc. threads

 

purely baseless and idle speculation is what you are saying then

QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 02:58 PM)
Just look in all of the Gonzales / Votto / Halladay / etc. threads

 

Ahhh... I thought you were referring to outside rumors, not to conversations on our board.

 

 

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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 05:26 PM)
Ahhh... I thought you were referring to outside rumors, not to conversations on our board.

 

Yes, I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear. He's just included whenever we talk about giving up something for a big bat.

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