February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:13 PM) *cough* I was echoing your sentiment.
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:14 PM) Peggy Olson. I haven't seen season 3 yet, but I don't think she is that ambiguous as much as I've seen. Just trying to make her way.
February 8, 201016 yr I haven't seen season 3 yet, but I don't think she is that ambiguous as much as I've seen. Just trying to make her way. By sleeping with Peter Campbell?
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) By sleeping with Peter Campbell? He wasn't married at the time. She was influenced by her new environment. Plus, their relationship is based on the fact that Peggy is not as complicated and high maintenance as Trudy. Edited February 8, 201016 yr by JPN366
February 8, 201016 yr He wasn't married at the time. There was a second time when they both arrived early to the office after he came back from his honeymoon.
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:19 PM) There was a second time when they both arrived early to the office after he came back from his honeymoon. That was more about giving into temptation based on previous experience.
February 8, 201016 yr That was more about giving into temptation based on previous experience. That's some morally ambiguous s*** if you ask me. edit- in response to you post. Edited February 8, 201016 yr by DukeNukeEm
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) That's some morally ambiguous s*** if you ask me. I'm not saying it was right, but that's a far stretch to get to morally ambiguous as a whole. "Mad Men" overall is dark and lacking moral characters. Everybody on the show is flawed in some way.
February 8, 201016 yr I expected that priest to make a pass at Peggy, if that tells you what that show's tone is like.
February 8, 201016 yr It's not far fetched to say that Peggy is the conscious of the show. To me its Cooper, but I've only seen Season 1.
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) To me its Cooper, but I've only seen Season 1. In my opinion, to define someone as morally ambiguous there has to be a consistent pattern of behavior. Vic Mackey from "The Shield" was that way for 7 seasons. Peggy Olson from "Mad Men" is just human and makes mistakes. Bert Cooper is just an old business man who likes to pull the strings. Edited February 8, 201016 yr by JPN366
February 8, 201016 yr Frank Castle/Punisher I think he's the definition of moral ambiguity in pop culture.
February 8, 201016 yr I can't imagine any better examples than Dexter and Mackey. Great calls right there.
February 8, 201016 yr The Boondocks Saints are a good example as well, but if I was going to pick just one I would go with Vic Mackey from the Shield. Might take a lot of tv watching to pick the right episode(s) to show though, considering there were 7 seasons.
February 8, 201016 yr Author QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 04:12 PM) Howard Roark Oh man! I do not have the balls to make a bunch of 18 year olds read Ayn Rand! I think there would be mutiny! Thank you all for your suggestions--and please keep them coming. Throughout the latter 2/3 of the semester we'll be reading and watching stuff to discuss what makes a monster, what can redeem a monster. So, we're going to be doing lots of critical thinking and playing devil's advocate. The final (class) project will to put a "monster" on trial and have a little mock trial.
February 8, 201016 yr Dexter Morgan from the show "Dexter". It's PERFECT. Some of the monologues in seasons 1 and 2 actually delve into what you're talking about.
February 8, 201016 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) Every single character on Joss Whedon's Dollhouse, Buffy, Angel, or Firefly. Added.
February 8, 201016 yr Hannibal Lecter lots of noir characters. Double Indemnity, Sunset Blvd, LA Confidential, Mike Hammer, etc.....
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