Where does coaching really matter?

[Texsox]

What do the coaches really do? It's a long season and comments range from "they don't pitch and swing the bat, they don't mean squat, it's the players" to "it's {insert mgr here} fault the team is below .500 instead of in the playoff".

[LittleHurt05]

*Other - make people laugh in restaurants

[greg775]

I don't think any of us know how much coaching matters because we haven't played the game at this level. I think there are examples of some managers being so bad it affects the team. Look at the KC Chiefs. There is some evidence that buffoons Todd Haley and Romeo Crennell were so bad it affected performance and win/loss record. Andy Reid has them 3-0.

 

As far as baseball ... I don't think any of us know for sure if Robin is to blame for the fielding/baserunning problems and the hitting problems. I think everybody agreed Bevington was a horrible manager. Why? Was the record all his fault? Again, I don't think we know. Does Robin know what he's doing or not? Did Ozzie? How can we judge this? Royals fans think Ned Yost is the worst manager ever yet the team is 10 over .500.

 

Is it all just fodder for talk shows?? Is it all cliche? Why do the Angels stink? Dunno.

Edited September 24, 2013 by greg775

[witesoxfan]

I don't think any of us know how much coaching matters because we haven't played the game at this level. I think there are examples of some managers being so bad it affects the team. Look at the KC Chiefs. There is some evidence that buffoons Todd Haley and Romeo Crennell were so bad it affected performance and win/loss record. Andy Reid has them 3-0.

 

As far as baseball ... I don't think any of us know for sure if Robin is to blame for the fielding/baserunning problems and the hitting problems. I think everybody agreed Bevington was a horrible manager. Why? Was the record all his fault? Again, I don't think we know. Does Robin know what he's doing or not? Did Ozzie? How can we judge this? Royals fans think Ned Yost is the worst manager ever yet the team is 10 over .500.

 

Is it all just fodder for talk shows?? Is it all cliche? Why do the Angels stink? Dunno.

 

#1, football is a completely different animal than baseball. In football, if you have good coaching and a good QB, you can almost always pencil a team in for the playoffs. There's no other sport where coaching matters more.

 

#2, Bevington made a call to the bullpen when there was no one warming up. He showed complete incompetence. That's akin to a head chef serving a plate and not putting the food on it.

 

#3, both Ventura and Guillen have shown competence. We know everybody's feelings on the latter.

 

#4, The Angels suck because they have no pitching, and DiPito spends all the money that Moreno gives him on hitters. Why? No idea.

[southsider2k5]

#1, football is a completely different animal than baseball. In football, if you have good coaching and a good QB, you can almost always pencil a team in for the playoffs. There's no other sport where coaching matters more.

 

#2, Bevington made a call to the bullpen when there was no one warming up. He showed complete incompetence. That's akin to a head chef serving a plate and not putting the food on it.

 

#3, both Ventura and Guillen have shown competence. We know everybody's feelings on the latter.

 

#4, The Angels suck because they have no pitching, and DiPito spends all the money that Moreno gives him on hitters. Why? No idea.

 

That game really, really sucked to be at. It was before they did all of the renovations and changed the bullpen layout. I was there with friends in the RF seats, and were looking straight into the Sox pen and could see no one warming up. I'll never forget the bullpen catcher standing at the open bullpen gate with his arms in the air like what the f*** do you want?

[Texsox]

Bevington fell all the way to independent ball. He rolls though my hometown everyone in a while. I've talked to him a time or two. Nice guy.

[max power]

All of them, but some more than others.

[max power]

You left out defense.

[BigEdWalsh]

Bevington fell all the way to independent ball. He rolls though my hometown everyone in a while. I've talked to him a time or two. Nice guy.

I met him too. He was a jerk, but he may have had a bit to drink.