August 29, 200322 yr Clement is still pitching in the 9th and the guy has to have close to 140 pitches. Even if they do make the playoffs, at this rate, their starters will be shot. Maybe JM is smarter than we think.
August 29, 200322 yr looks like he threw 123 pitches getting the CG. that's not horrible for a CG, but it's not something you want to see outing after outing from a starter.
August 29, 200322 yr He was fine. You don't pull him in that situation, all things considered. It wasn't 140
August 29, 200322 yr looks like he threw 123 pitches getting the CG. that's not horrible for a CG, but it's not something you want to see outing after outing from a starter. Especially with that slider he throws. He is asking for elbow problems and now Borowski says he has a sore shoulder. Their starters are gonna have their arms fall off and the pen is just about shot. Dusty Baylor doesn't handle pitchers well at all.
August 29, 200322 yr Author looks like he threw 123 pitches getting the CG. that's not horrible for a CG, but it's not something you want to see outing after outing from a starter. Especially with that slider he throws. He is asking for elbow problems and now Borowski says he has a sore shoulder. Their starters are gonna have their arms fall off and the pen is just about shot. Dusty Baylor doesn't handle pitchers well at all. How could the pen be shot and the starters being used too much? That doesnt make sense.
August 29, 200322 yr looks like he threw 123 pitches getting the CG. that's not horrible for a CG, but it's not something you want to see outing after outing from a starter. Especially with that slider he throws. He is asking for elbow problems and now Borowski says he has a sore shoulder. Their starters are gonna have their arms fall off and the pen is just about shot. Dusty Baylor doesn't handle pitchers well at all. How could the pen be shot and the starters being used too much? That doesnt make sense. It is the cubs we're talking about...
August 29, 200322 yr Why r we talkin about the Cubs anyway? They're not going anywhere. They're gonna be watching us come October
August 30, 200322 yr Baker lets his starters go too deep. Look at Prior, Kerry Wood has been struggling. That's one reason the Giants lost the Series last year. CWSOX45
August 30, 200322 yr ill bet they are wishing they didnt let beck go huh..........lol They supposedly asked the Padres about getting Beck back again......... And to answer the question about how you can overuse your starters AND your bullpen, if your starters throw 100+ pitches in 6 innings ( which the Cub starters have done A LOT this year ), then you still have 3 innings to fill, and Dusty Baylor loves to use all his pitchers when one or two would have done the job.
August 30, 200322 yr Clement is still pitching in the 9th and the guy has to have close to 140 pitches. Even if they do make the playoffs, at this rate, their starters will be shot. Maybe JM is smarter than we think. So what is the alternative? Use your bullpen and have zero chance at the playoffs? The Cubs are in a no win situation.
August 31, 200322 yr They supposedly asked the Padres about getting Beck back again......... im sure they did...lol.. hes the only thing they had thats even remotely close to good pitching........... lol snooze they lose... glad the pads got him........... :fthecubs
August 31, 200322 yr im sure they did...lol.. hes the only thing they had thats even remotely close to good pitching........... lol snooze they lose... glad the pads got him........... :fthecubs my supervisor is a Cub Cult member, and he says "they didn't need Beck cuz their bullpen is set" and "he wasn't throwing hard enough". I answered that Farnsworth throws PLENTY hard, but does that make him good? ...of course, he also said he wouldn't want Albert Pujols on his team because "he's not a 5-tool guy" and "he doesn't run or throw all that well".
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