November 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 02:15 AM) Enter another argument about WAR overvaluing players like Heyward or Alex Gordon with high walk rates and/or stellar defensive abilities/outfield arms. but something came out on ATL wants a kings ransom for their players. pass.
November 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:15 PM) Enter another argument about WAR overvaluing players like Heyward or Alex Gordon with high walk rates and/or stellar defensive abilities/outfield arms. Or enter another argument of people underrating the value of defense for teams. Why is WAR automatically wrong when a player doesn't meet our perceptions? Why can't we just say "Well, maybe we underestimated the value of defense?" It's a legitimate discussion worth having, but to say that Gordon and Heyward shouldn't be ranked highly because much of their value is derived from defense is an incredibly shallow argument that I'm not buying for a second.
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